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Old May 31, 2019 | 08:53 PM
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AMS update - tuned 2014 E63S is running strong

Hi guys,

just wanted to document an update on my AMS tune that I've had for about 5000 miles now.

Heres the link to the original tune:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ams-today.html

The car is running strong and I've had warranty work without any issues, of course I pop in (45 seconds) the stock ecu and then take it in for dealer service. The car is under a 7/75k Mercedes ELW warranty. I bought the car new in 2014.

Recently i I had a blinking CEL at WOT and stopped the car immediately and restarted it and the light cleared. I pulled the codes and it was P0300, P0305, and P0308.

Took it to Kyle and Jake at AMS in West Chicago, IL which is a 30 min drive for me and they replaced my original plugs with oem plugs gapped at 0.022 and ran the car and logged it. It was detecting knocking after the plugs but not throwing a CEL/code. I have been using 93 octane religiously. They retuned it and re logged it and all is well and car pulls as strong as ever and is fun as hell. (I had 32,000 miles on my original factory plugs, 5000 of those miles were tuned miles)

Also i have no idle or low rpm vibes that some have reported with narrow gapped plugs. The car pulls like a fawkin' rocketship and it's just brilliant.

Kudos to AMS once again for their amazing customer support.

Enjoy the ride!

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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Hi guys,

just wanted to document an update on my AMS tune that I've had for about 5000 miles now.

Heres the link to the original tune:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ams-today.html

The car is running strong and I've had warranty work without any issues, of course I pop in (45 seconds) the stock ecu and then take it in for dealer service.

Recently i I had a blinking CEL at WOT and stopped the car immediately and restarted it and the light cleared. I pulled the codes and it was P0300, P0305, and P0308.

Took it to Kyle and Jake at AMS in West Chicago, IL which is a 30 min drive for me and they replaced my original plugs with oem plugs gapped at 0.022 and ran the car and logged it. It was detecting knocking after the plugs but not throwing a CEL/code. I have wen using 93 octane religiously. They retuned it and re logged it and all is well and car pulls as strong as ever and is fun as hell.

Also i have no idle or low rpm vibes that some have reported with narrow gapped plugs.

Kudos to AMS once again for their amazing customer support.

Enjoy the ride!
Peter - great to hear all is good with your car and the AMS tune getting ironed out.

When you experienced your flashing CEL was it at WOT going from 3-4 gear at around 60-80 mph??

How does it pull now after new plug, gapped tighter and tweaks to the tune??
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 07:15 AM
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How much for your tuned ecu? Where did you buy it? If you do't mind sharing.
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 11:03 AM
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How much for your tuned ecu? Where did you buy it? If you do't mind sharing.
check out the link in my first post -- got used it on eBay for $350.00 shipped; dyno tune was $2500, left it for six hours with Jake at AMS

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Peter - great to hear all is good with your car and the AMS tune getting ironed out.

When you experienced your flashing CEL was it at WOT going from 3-4 gear at around 60-80 mph??

How does it pull now after new plug, gapped tighter and tweaks to the tune??
hey man - yes, loving the tune!

I was at WOT from a dig I think 2nd to 3rd when it started blinking and engine stumbling... I was about 50-60mph

it pulls like a rocketship ... same as before ... I ran a trackhawk from a dig and beat him to 70mph and also ran a non tuned rs3 and edged him out and then lost to an aventador on 88 that had the better gearing when he took off ... all SINCE my tune was tweaked
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 11:49 AM
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Isnt blinking cel means misfire?

I heard ams tunes also have issues in high gear throwing a cel is common
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Hi guys,

just wanted to document an update on my AMS tune that I've had for about 5000 miles now.

Heres the link to the original tune:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ams-today.html

The car is running strong and I've had warranty work without any issues, of course I pop in (45 seconds) the stock ecu and then take it in for dealer service. The car is under a 7/75k Mercedes ELW warranty. I bought the car new in 2014.

Recently i I had a blinking CEL at WOT and stopped the car immediately and restarted it and the light cleared. I pulled the codes and it was P0300, P0305, and P0308.

Took it to Kyle and Jake at AMS in West Chicago, IL which is a 30 min drive for me and they replaced my original plugs with oem plugs gapped at 0.022 and ran the car and logged it. It was detecting knocking after the plugs but not throwing a CEL/code. I have been using 93 octane religiously. They retuned it and re logged it and all is well and car pulls as strong as ever and is fun as hell. (I had 32,000 miles on my original factory plugs, 5000 of those miles were tuned miles)

Also i have no idle or low rpm vibes that some have reported with narrow gapped plugs. The car pulls like a fawkin' rocketship and it's just brilliant.

Kudos to AMS once again for their amazing customer support.

Enjoy the ride!
Great write up, I just got my car back last week from AMS for a re-tune. Runs great and made crazy numbers on their dyno!
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Savage212
Great write up, I just got my car back last week from AMS for a re-tune. Runs great and made crazy numbers on their dyno!
Savage - hey did you have misfires and got it retuned?

Or or did you further modify and retune? What did you dyno?

Peter and I are also Chicago area based we should do a meet up some time soon!!
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 02:43 PM
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Great write up, I just got my car back last week from AMS for a re-tune. Runs great and made crazy numbers on their dyno!
Thats awesome -- yes as jvakos said we should go to the dragaway in Kenosha soon.

Did you re tune for a specific reason?

this was my dyno:


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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jvakos
Savage - hey did you have misfires and got it retuned?

Or or did you further modify and retune? What did you dyno?

Peter and I are also Chicago area based we should do a meet up some time soon!!

Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Thats awesome -- yes as jvakos said we should go to the dragaway in Kenosha soon.

Did you re tune for a specific reason?
I did have some misfires on an earlier tune, I retuned for the AMS airboxes. I had them on for a while but never updated it.
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 03:24 PM
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I have an ECU for pump gas. Also one for MS109 race fuel. Here are my most recent dynos.

93 Octane before and after:

MS109 Before and after:
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Savage212
I have an ECU for pump gas. Also one for MS109 race fuel. Here are my most recent dynos.

93 Octane before and after:

MS109 Before and after:
Damn son, your hp across the range and peak really improved with race gas....

also it looks like the airboxes really helped out 30+ hp
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Originally Posted by Savage212
I have an ECU for pump gas. Also one for MS109 race fuel. Here are my most recent dynos.

93 Octane before and after:

MS109 Before and after:
Savage - awesome setup man! Am liking that #2 ecu tuned for ms109 the numbers are amazing!!! You get it out for 1/4 mile run? You have to be in 10’s with that power!
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Damn son, your hp across the range and peak really improved with race gas....

also it looks like the airboxes really helped out 30+ hp
The race gas is where that power is at, ms109 is nice fuel!
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Savage212
The race gas is where that power is at, ms109 is nice fuel!
Yeah you really got me thinking about that now!

You pretty much can only use that MS 109 ecu at the dragstrip right?? Or can you drive on that fuel (if you needed to, not a daily driver of course) for longer periods on highway??

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Originally Posted by Savage212
I have an ECU for pump gas. Also one for MS109 race fuel. Here are my most recent dynos.

93 Octane before and after:

MS109 Before and after:
Savage - and your setup is AMS tune + AMS airboxes only? Or do you have exhaust, meth anything else? Damn good numbers!
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 01:29 PM
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The race gas is where that power is at, ms109 is nice fuel!
Plus with that high octane 109 less chance of knock and ??safer on the engine?
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 05:15 PM
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Savage - and your setup is AMS tune + AMS airboxes only? Or do you have exhaust, meth anything else? Damn good numbers!
Catless downpipes and exhaust all AMS

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Plus with that high octane 109 less chance of knock and ??safer on the engine?
I think mostly it allows for more timing, the fuel is oxygenated as well. From my understading it helps power production.
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jvakos
Yeah you really got me thinking about that now!

You pretty much can only use that MS 109 ecu at the dragstrip right?? Or can you drive on that fuel (if you needed to, not a daily driver of course) for longer periods on highway??

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You can run it as much as you want...... At ~ $10 a gallon tho it's a bit costly for the street.

Usually if I am going to use that tune I'll run down to 1/8 tank 93 pump. There is a unleaded 100 octane pump about 25 minutes from my home so I'd put in 3/4 tank maybe. Run that down to empty then throw the MS 109 in.
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Originally Posted by Savage212
I have an ECU for pump gas. Also one for MS109 race fuel. Here are my most recent dynos.

93 Octane before and after:

MS109 Before and after:
Savage....Where did you get the extra ECU? How much....if you don't mind me asking. Are these actual e63s ECU's or off another vehicle and AMS writes a new program?
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Savage....Where did you get the extra ECU? How much....if you don't mind me asking. Are these actual e63s ECU's or off another vehicle and AMS writes a new program?
Get it off eBay

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...cu-tune-2.html
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Awesome numbers!

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