My 2022 Build
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At this point beggars can't be choosers with the E63, so if you like the spec (even if it's not perfect) then go for it. For me, it's the search for an E28 M5. I want one with a factory black interior, but the chances of me finding a 30+ year old US-spec model they only made 30 of are all but nil. I'll take what I can get at this point. Same with my E63, AMG hasn't revealed anything that would get me out of my 2018 (like a 800+hp hybrid powertrain from the new GT63 E Performance) so I just bought an ELW that will last me another 75k miles or May 2025, whichever comes first. It's the best all around car I've ever owned and it will take something special to displace it.
A possibility that is becoming increasingly likely is that any unsold 2021 E63s out there are the last W213 E63s that will be made. Mercedes is cutting production due to supply constraints on chips and parts that require chips. They're focusing on base and volume models that require somewhere between one-half and one-third of the chips needed for top spec cars. Intel, TSMC, and Samsung are all warning that chip supply likely won't meet demand until sometime in 2023. If Mercedes were to start making 2023 AMGs then, there'd only be a couple of months of production before the W214 started and they'll probably just want to go ahead and get the factory retooling done and everything ready for the next-gen E-Class. I may end up being wrong but there's a VERY good chance the AMG W/S213 has/is about to end production for good.
A possibility that is becoming increasingly likely is that any unsold 2021 E63s out there are the last W213 E63s that will be made. Mercedes is cutting production due to supply constraints on chips and parts that require chips. They're focusing on base and volume models that require somewhere between one-half and one-third of the chips needed for top spec cars. Intel, TSMC, and Samsung are all warning that chip supply likely won't meet demand until sometime in 2023. If Mercedes were to start making 2023 AMGs then, there'd only be a couple of months of production before the W214 started and they'll probably just want to go ahead and get the factory retooling done and everything ready for the next-gen E-Class. I may end up being wrong but there's a VERY good chance the AMG W/S213 has/is about to end production for good.
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As for prioritizing base and volume models over the top of the line and top AMG cars it really does not make sense as the latter have huge profit margins, where one S63 is more profitable then five GLA 250s.
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^ I mentioned this in another thread on the subject, but my guess is that once it was realized volume would need to be decreased due to the chip shortage, V8 production was suspended abruptly to avoid US certification costs for MY2022, hence why MY2021 AMG models have continued to be produced past the usual mid-year model year changeover (and why 2021 G-wagens will be built through the end of the year).
As such, I expect we will see the suspended V8 models, as well as new ones (SL, G-squared, etc.), for MY2023...maybe as early as spring. The chip situation will continue to improve over the next 1-2 years until supply fully catches up with demand.
As such, I expect we will see the suspended V8 models, as well as new ones (SL, G-squared, etc.), for MY2023...maybe as early as spring. The chip situation will continue to improve over the next 1-2 years until supply fully catches up with demand.
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...if they sold the same number of S63s at GLA250s, that would be true. But the margin doesn't offset the volume. They've done the math, it's why they didn't cancel every E350 and 450 to prioritize E63 builds. They sell enough of those at a fast enough pace to offset the increased margins of the E63. The potential pool of E350 and E450 buyers is also much larger than the market for E63s.
https://www.motor1.com/news/532591/m...p-prices-high/
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I interpreted the article as they are going to be offering fewer incentives and keeping prices high on the volume models because the demand is there. Increasing the margins on fast selling models is easy money.
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we don’t know
maybe m4 screws are in short supply?
or something else critical
another supplier in germany is out of biz?
last time I was in Affalterbach story was they get the parts from local suppliers
so must be a major supply chain disruption - maybe there is no steel in Germany any more?
lol
maybe m4 screws are in short supply?
or something else critical
another supplier in germany is out of biz?
last time I was in Affalterbach story was they get the parts from local suppliers
so must be a major supply chain disruption - maybe there is no steel in Germany any more?
lol
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Ok, so you’re saying they cancelled all the high end models (besides the just released s-class they can’t stop making due to optics) and converted them to volume sellers because they want to…lose money?
I interpreted the article as they are going to be offering fewer incentives and keeping prices high on the volume models because the demand is there. Increasing the margins on fast selling models is easy money.
I interpreted the article as they are going to be offering fewer incentives and keeping prices high on the volume models because the demand is there. Increasing the margins on fast selling models is easy money.
They just realized that chasing volume is not always in their best interests, it lowers their image and concentrating on high line cars provides better profit margins and lowers the expenses (labor, infrastructure, etc.).
2022 "moratorium is less radical then we thought, high line AMGs are still coming, they just want to hybridize them all.
S580 has no restrictions and S/SLGT63e are coming too.
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I did something similar. Weirdly, the rear seat airbags seem to be even rarer than the CCBs. Car supposedly arriving later today--I think I'll be a happy camper once the PPF is on and I am comfortable driving it, even if it isn't the exact spec I had submitted for my '22.
