How many trips it took ? Where is the 65” tv ? 😆

 

So I had some more fun with front wheels.

I tried to put the 15mm spacers on with the 285/35 tire on the stock 20x9.5 ET25 rims, effectively making them an ET10.
With the spacers the outside of the tire rubs the rear inner fender liner.
So I tried 12.5 mm spacers and the tire still rubs the inner fender liner.
I tried to slip a piece of paper between the fender liner and tire and could not.

No spacers and the tire JUST clears and I can fit paper behind.

So it appears the 275/35 tire size on a 10" rim with good ET is the max tire or it will most likely rub in the same place.

Anyone with 285's and aftermarket rims on the front? ET? Any rubbing?


15mm Spacers 285/35


15mm Spacers 285/35


15mm Spacers 285/35


Outside tire rubs rear inner fender


Spacers off - no more rubbing and paper fits easy


Minor rub marks with spacers

 

For fun I got a cheap 20x10.5" wheel ET 40
With 15mm Spacer effectively making an ET25 a 10.5" wheel fits no problem.
I put the old 295/30 PS4 tire on the rim and put it on the front and left the car lowered - no issues or rubbing at all. I drove all around, hit the known dips and bumps, threw the car around, and 295/30 and a 10.5" rim fits.

Got me to thinking on my 285/35 rubbing issue. Maybe a 285/35 tire on a 10 or 10.5" rim instead of 9.5", would pull the front shoulder of the tire back 1/2" to 1" since the rim is wider in the back, effectively "moving" the tire on centerline towards the inside of the turning radius - maybe giving enough clearance to not rub?

Anyhow if anyone wants a 295/30 on the front on 10.5" rim it works like a charm. I bet if you went 10.5" ET20 instead of ET25 a 305/30 looks like it might even fit.

A 295/30 10.5" square setup would be so cool! I'm going to play with the back next when I have some time.


10.5" ET 25 with 295/30 PS4. ET20 or ET22 would be even better. Yeah I'd do ET22.


10.5" ET25 loads of room with 295/30


ET22 or even ET25 would be even be better giving more room on the inside and making the rim be more flush coming out a few more mm












Zero rubbing lowered and driving around


Looks great


That cheap black rim has me thinking. Hmmm.

 

Just had an alignment done too with the stock rims on and no spacers

 

That is exactly why I searched for a pair of stock OEM black forged wheels for my sedan. The black wheels with silver look amazing.

 

Funny I sold my black cross forged wheels. I hated them at the time.

LOL.

 

I know, I inquired about them. I was hoping you still had them when I asked. Would have given me a good reason to road trip.

Something about black wheels and silver cars....

 

I am addicted to Volke VE40 and T37's just so unsure how it will look on the wagon. A guy put them on a W212 square it looked pretty darn good.

I also LOVE some of the really funky aero type wheels from E6Carbon. Those SL10-R's on the GT look absultely amazing.

 

I had forever wanted TE37s on my wagon, but their available sizing left me too afraid to pull the trigger. I did find a guy on Instagram (@papiflyy) that had a Diamond White Wagon with TE37s mounted, which looked freaking AMAZING!!!

But I'm too dim-witted to figure out how to attach the picture here.

Mike

 

Square wheel setups on S212 E63s - MBWorld.org Forums

(8) STRICTLY Rays / Volk / Advan Discussion/Owners/Marketplace | W213 E63s on 20" TE37 Ultra Track Edition II | Facebook

 

Found the origintal!

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ml#post7578704

 

Hey, interested selling the oem forged wheels? I'm located in GTA

 

Sorry they are gone, and I'm keeping the 5 stars.
I should have kept the forged ones too. Funny, they were REALLY hard to sell, it took a year and I kept dropping the price and ended up "throwing them in" to get my W212 sold for a good price. Now when I look for the forged online - egads! they are pricey. I wonder if any actually sell for good money or just sit for a year or two like mine did.

 

The forged ones sell really quickly in the FB groups for a premium. However, those particular rims at this time are really getting hit hard by scammers because they command such a premium. I was almost scammed, but I used Paypal with my AMEX card for the deposit. When the scammer tried to pull his crap, AMEX said "get effed" and refunded my money. I watched a set of OEM Forged wheels for about a week, and the seller was getting pummeled by the guys in the group. I messaged him, and asked for specific information, he provided it, and agreed on the price. I live in Arizona and drove 800 miles round trip to California same day to purchase the forged OEM wheels from him. They on my car now. I paid $3900 for them which they were mint and had really nice PS4's mounted. I should have paid more, but the guy was really getting beat up and he dropped the price.

So yeah.....they are pricey. I have my 5 stars/10 spokes for sale. They are in great condition with good PS4's on them and I have them listed for $2k on FB Marketplace. Not a single serious inquiry. However, they are sitting in a climate controlled room out of the way and I really don't have to sell them, so unless I get what I want they can continue to sit.

 

Keep going lower
-35/-35
New tires are Tucked! It’s hard to tell but there’s a good inch of tire up in the wheel wells.

Will try lower tomorrow

Zero rubbing with the big tires

Fronts are 11mm taller then stock, 5mm ride height gain.
Rears are 35mm taller and 18mm Ride height gain!
Front to Rear is 1.8% well under the 3% threshold.


-35mm Front and Rear

 

Found a really nifty calculator to compare a 285 on a 9.5" rim vs 10.5"

https://bndtechsource.ucoz.com/index...alculator/0-20

Any other tire sizes and rim widths too.

Very cool! Looks like there is hope going wider rim and better offset the 285 may still fit with flush stance. Will try as soon as I swap the winters on.

 

How is the ride quality with it lowered and the bigger tires? It looks awesome!

 

Thank you!

I will say it may not be for everyone. I love it.

The bigger tires took the jarring banging "am I going to bend a rim" slamming that being lowered can indroduce.
This also means turn in is a little slower and the car is not as nimble as it was on the lower profile tires. The car was never crisp to begin with, and now it is less crisp. So if that will bother you, don't do it. Personally I prefer it since 99% of the time I am driving in traffic on ****ty roads. To me the less sporty feeling is a good tradeoff for our roads in Toronto. They are so bad, have so many streetcar and railway tracks, winter heaving and hug potholes. For my use it's the perfect setup. If was in the south or somehwere with good roads I would probably do a 21" and 30 series instead. Or stay 30 series on the 20's.

Bonus for me, I *love* the meaty look. Other people like stretch or stance or lower profile but I love meaty so much this setup rocks.

Future: I am testing the 285 on some wider rims, and if it works, I am going to widen the stock rims 11" rear and 10.5 or 10.25" front. And the whole reason for this, is, to make it look and feel a bit more sporty and square up the shoulders. I'm farily certain the oversized tires on the udersized rims that make the sidewall angle out and not square (or slightly stretched) is introducing uneeded floatiness. And safety issues when not driving miss daisy. As soon as the wheels are the right width I think it will bet the best of sporty and less bang on bumps. Right now it is a teeny-tiny bit too floaty but if it had to stay like this I'd still be happy. I do hope the wider rims takes it to the next level. If it won't work I would consider going down to 295/35 275/35 the next round of tires and running the 15mm/12mm spacers again.

 

Narrowed it down a bit

Ferrada F8 FR7 on the E
BC Forged EH173 looks great too not sure the concave the E offsets will get vs the pics

 

Played more with the rear fitment game.

10.5 ET40 too much poke pics below. So the Ferrada’s are out.

Is ET45 the perfect fit for 10.5’s and 295? Or is it ET50? 45 has the same poke (88mm) as 11’s in ET52. But they also have 14mm less inset which means the tire will center outward more too. But Less 5mm a side tire going 305->295. My head. Hurts.

Thinking about square 295 on10.5. Maybe just do 11 on the rear and 305/295? I dunno though, something about square setups gets me going if I can get the same look front and rear.

Oh and I hate all aftermarket rims again. Still searching.

 

10.5 ET40

 

I know you are trying multiple fitments and still "fleshing" things out......but the 10.5 ET40 looks way outta-whack/too much poke.

Just my opinion and not meant as an insult or negative comment towards your fitment trials.

Keep up the awesome work!

Mike

 

Agree 100%. I "knew it" before trying but a wheel supplier I was dealing with tried to convice me that their wheel would fit. So I thought "am I crazy?" and tried it with the cheap wheel I have.
I don't evven think you could go over a marginal bump without cutting the tire or baconing the fender.
BUYER BEWARE

And like most things in life - I will try to re-invent the wheel (literally?) and then come to the conlusion that 20x11 ET52 and 20x10 ET10 that everyone runs is the perfect fitment and also like the story of my life "I should have listened" and skipped a bunch of lessons.

 

Lessons (mistakes) are how one learns. It is a good thing, not bad.

 

Story of my life.