RMS Fail Club
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
RMS Fail Club
Welcome to the RMS Fail Club. If you're here, you're likely not having a good day
If you had a failed RMS, cut and paste the following and post your pertinent details to add to the database of affected vehicles:
Year: 2019
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 38K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: weekend/spirited
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Has it re-leaked after repair: no
Cost to repair: $5700 (warranty vs OOP)
Who repaired it: Indy vs dealership
For those who are new to the RMS/OVS issue, see this sticky for numerous links of discussions regarding the issue, new part numbers, theories on causes of the failures, posted repair bills, how warranty coverage can help
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
Credit to @SM105K for this idea
If you had a failed RMS, cut and paste the following and post your pertinent details to add to the database of affected vehicles:
Year: 2019
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 38K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: weekend/spirited
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Has it re-leaked after repair: no
Cost to repair: $5700 (warranty vs OOP)
Who repaired it: Indy vs dealership
For those who are new to the RMS/OVS issue, see this sticky for numerous links of discussions regarding the issue, new part numbers, theories on causes of the failures, posted repair bills, how warranty coverage can help
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
Credit to @SM105K for this idea
Last edited by PeterUbers; Feb 25, 2025 at 04:02 PM.
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From: Arizona
2019 E63S and 2014 CLS 63S
Year: 2019
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 38K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: weekend/spirited
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Has it re-leaked after repair: No
Cost to repair: $0
Who repaired it: Indy dealership fixed it while fixing a upper pan oil gasket under warranty. It was a while they were in there type of thing.
I am the second owner. However, I have spoken to the original owner. He said that he babied the car.
I do not drive it easy. Immediately started modding it after purchase to the mods in my signature.
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 38K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: weekend/spirited
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Has it re-leaked after repair: No
Cost to repair: $0
Who repaired it: Indy dealership fixed it while fixing a upper pan oil gasket under warranty. It was a while they were in there type of thing.
I am the second owner. However, I have spoken to the original owner. He said that he babied the car.
I do not drive it easy. Immediately started modding it after purchase to the mods in my signature.
Last edited by SM105K; Feb 25, 2025 at 02:44 PM.
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From: USA
2018 E63S Wagon, 2017 Z51 Corvette
Year: 2018
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 36K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: daily
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: During extended warranty (both times)
Has it re-leaked after repair: yes
Cost to repair: $0 (warranty)
Who repaired it: dealership
They fixed it and replaced the oil separators. Got clunking noise driving it back from the dealer. Took it back for loose exhaust and low coolant. 1 month later it was leaking again. The dealer replaced it again. 6 weeks later it is back in the shop for a CEL (running really rough, low power). Pretty bummed out right now. Thinking of a Avant but the $$$ are pretty high for a new one.
Talking to the uber driver on my way home from dropping it off and told him I love the car, it's my first Mercedes and my last.
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 36K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: daily
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: During extended warranty (both times)
Has it re-leaked after repair: yes
Cost to repair: $0 (warranty)
Who repaired it: dealership
They fixed it and replaced the oil separators. Got clunking noise driving it back from the dealer. Took it back for loose exhaust and low coolant. 1 month later it was leaking again. The dealer replaced it again. 6 weeks later it is back in the shop for a CEL (running really rough, low power). Pretty bummed out right now. Thinking of a Avant but the $$$ are pretty high for a new one.
Talking to the uber driver on my way home from dropping it off and told him I love the car, it's my first Mercedes and my last.
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Posts: 517
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From: Los Angeles, CA
2019 S63 AMG (Current), 2015 E63S, 2008 E63, 2005 E55
Year: 2019
Model: S63 Sedan
RMS Failure Mileage: 38.5K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: Daily
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: During CPO
Has it re-leaked after repair: Repair in progress
Cost to repair: ~ $10,000 (estimated)
Who repaired it: Dealership
Complained of heating trans and oil leak on garage. Took to dealership. They called days later and said rear main seal is leaking.
Model: S63 Sedan
RMS Failure Mileage: 38.5K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: Daily
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: During CPO
Has it re-leaked after repair: Repair in progress
Cost to repair: ~ $10,000 (estimated)
Who repaired it: Dealership
Complained of heating trans and oil leak on garage. Took to dealership. They called days later and said rear main seal is leaking.
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From: SoCal, USA
2019 E63 S
Year: 2019
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 47K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: Spirited/Semi-daily
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: During CPO
Has it re-leaked after repair: YES, at 52K miles
Cost to repair: $- (Warranty, MB CPO)
Who repaired it: Dealership because of CPO
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 47K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: Spirited/Semi-daily
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: During CPO
Has it re-leaked after repair: YES, at 52K miles
Cost to repair: $- (Warranty, MB CPO)
Who repaired it: Dealership because of CPO
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Posts: 33
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From: Midwest
2019 E63 AMG S
Year: 2019
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 67K miles
Original Owner: No/ 2nd onwer
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Extended Warranty: Yes, 50% of the cost was covered by my extended warranty purchased from Highline Autos (thanks to Trent)
Here's the link to the thread that goes over my RMS leak experience: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-2019-e63.html
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 67K miles
Original Owner: No/ 2nd onwer
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Extended Warranty: Yes, 50% of the cost was covered by my extended warranty purchased from Highline Autos (thanks to Trent)
Here's the link to the thread that goes over my RMS leak experience: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-2019-e63.html
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Posts: 517
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From: Los Angeles, CA
2019 S63 AMG (Current), 2015 E63S, 2008 E63, 2005 E55
Year: 2019
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 67K miles
Original Owner: No/ 2nd onwer
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Extended Warranty: Yes, 50% of the cost was covered by my extended warranty purchased from Highline Autos (thanks to Trent)
Here's the link to the thread that goes over my RMS leak experience: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-2019-e63.html
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 67K miles
Original Owner: No/ 2nd onwer
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Extended Warranty: Yes, 50% of the cost was covered by my extended warranty purchased from Highline Autos (thanks to Trent)
Here's the link to the thread that goes over my RMS leak experience: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...-2019-e63.html
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e63 AMG
Year: 2018
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 50k
Style/Frequency of Driving: daily
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Has it re-leaked after repair: no
Cost to repair: $4,618 (separators) - seal completed by uses car lot I bought it from (caught before buying)
Who repaired it: dealership
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 50k
Style/Frequency of Driving: daily
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Has it re-leaked after repair: no
Cost to repair: $4,618 (separators) - seal completed by uses car lot I bought it from (caught before buying)
Who repaired it: dealership
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S
Year: 2018
Model: S63
RMS Failure Mileage: 60K
Style/Frequency of Driving: daily
Original Owner: Yes.
Failed Before or After Warranty: During extended warranty period.
Has it re-leaked after repair: No.
Cost to repair: unknown - extended warranty covered it.
Who repaired it: dealership
Model: S63
RMS Failure Mileage: 60K
Style/Frequency of Driving: daily
Original Owner: Yes.
Failed Before or After Warranty: During extended warranty period.
Has it re-leaked after repair: No.
Cost to repair: unknown - extended warranty covered it.
Who repaired it: dealership
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Last edited by Alan Smithee; Mar 3, 2025 at 01:25 AM.
Thread Starter
Out Of Control!!
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
as discussed here - fidelity covers the rms repair - suggesting 100%? (From the sticky)
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...y-pricing.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...y-pricing.html
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 218
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From: New York, NY
2018 E63S AMG
2018 E63S bought at 22,000 miles - vehicle has ECU TCU CPC Catless Downpipes
I installed intakes and a meth injection system
March 2025 I am at 84,000 miles and rear main seal is bone dry, no other leaks whatsoever.
I daily drive it 75 miles back and forth to work and drive it like I stole it.
I change the oil every 5000 miles religiously since I work at the dealership.
I highly recommend against using the Eco feature which has cylinder deactivation. I feel like that does more harm than good to the motor.
I also am not seeing many 2018s coming in to my dealer with this issue, mostly 2019+.
I am the Assistant Service Manager and keep an eye on most AMG issues coming through my department.
I installed intakes and a meth injection system
March 2025 I am at 84,000 miles and rear main seal is bone dry, no other leaks whatsoever.
I daily drive it 75 miles back and forth to work and drive it like I stole it.
I change the oil every 5000 miles religiously since I work at the dealership.
I highly recommend against using the Eco feature which has cylinder deactivation. I feel like that does more harm than good to the motor.
I also am not seeing many 2018s coming in to my dealer with this issue, mostly 2019+.
I am the Assistant Service Manager and keep an eye on most AMG issues coming through my department.
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From: Scottsdale, Arizona
2001 E55AMG
as discussed here - fidelity covers the rms repair - suggesting 100%? (From the sticky)
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...y-pricing.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...y-pricing.html
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
Thread Starter
Out Of Control!!
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
A fidelity warranty is welcome protection with a used 213 amg. Seems like a no brainer.
Last edited by PeterUbers; Mar 3, 2025 at 05:19 PM.
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Mine failed car is 2018 @ 83 K miles with Stage 2 since 2020
Currently in shop getting RMS done , my mechanic dropped Transmutation and doing it without dropping engine .
also changed oil separators and water thermostat…
he recommended to install oil catch can, is this something anyone has done?
Currently in shop getting RMS done , my mechanic dropped Transmutation and doing it without dropping engine .
also changed oil separators and water thermostat…
he recommended to install oil catch can, is this something anyone has done?
Thread Starter
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 13,799
Likes: 3,228
2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Mine failed car is 2018 @ 83 K miles with Stage 2 since 2020
Currently in shop getting RMS done , my mechanic dropped Transmutation and doing it without dropping engine .
also changed oil separators and water thermostat…
he recommended to install oil catch can, is this something anyone has done?
Currently in shop getting RMS done , my mechanic dropped Transmutation and doing it without dropping engine .
also changed oil separators and water thermostat…
he recommended to install oil catch can, is this something anyone has done?
how much did it cost you?
how do you drive the car?
no report of any m177 that I've seen that's installed this AS A RESULT of having ovs and rms issue; nonetheless, catch cans have been often discussed here / read all the rms threads in the sticky:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...ml#post9039654
Sticky:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
Last edited by PeterUbers; Mar 7, 2025 at 02:17 PM.
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From: Kent, UK
2018 E63S,2016 C63 S Edition 1 Coupe(gone), 2011 640D M Sports Coupe, 2015 435i M Sports Coupe
Welcome to the RMS Fail Club. If you're here, you're likely not having a good day
If you had a failed RMS, cut and paste the following and post your pertinent details to add to the database of affected vehicles:
Year: 2019
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 38K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: weekend/spirited
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Has it re-leaked after repair: no
Cost to repair: $5700 (warranty vs OOP)
Who repaired it: Indy vs dealership
For those who are new to the RMS/OVS issue, see this sticky for numerous links of discussions regarding the issue, new part numbers, theories on causes of the failures, posted repair bills, how warranty coverage can help
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
Credit to @SM105K for this idea
If you had a failed RMS, cut and paste the following and post your pertinent details to add to the database of affected vehicles:
Year: 2019
Model: E63S
RMS Failure Mileage: 38K miles
Style/Frequency of Driving: weekend/spirited
Original Owner: No
Failed Before or After Warranty: After
Has it re-leaked after repair: no
Cost to repair: $5700 (warranty vs OOP)
Who repaired it: Indy vs dealership
For those who are new to the RMS/OVS issue, see this sticky for numerous links of discussions regarding the issue, new part numbers, theories on causes of the failures, posted repair bills, how warranty coverage can help
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...fixes-diy.html
Credit to @SM105K for this idea
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Joined: Sep 2024
Posts: 33
Likes: 15
From: Midwest
2019 E63 AMG S
Fidelity paid for the whole repair, I think they're referring to 50% of the cost of the warranty was re-couped with the payout on repairs.
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
Trenton O. Gibson
tgibson@highline-autos.com
Highline Autos
Direct: 602.909.9216
Office: 480.348.0777
Thread Starter
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 13,799
Likes: 3,228
2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Thread Starter
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 13,799
Likes: 3,228
2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2024
Posts: 33
Likes: 15
From: Midwest
2019 E63 AMG S
Thread Starter
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 13,799
Likes: 3,228
2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Last edited by PeterUbers; Mar 11, 2025 at 11:33 AM.
