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Bi-X: W203/CL203 OEM Bi-XENON Upgrade, Auto-Levelling & Programming thread
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2003 C240 4Matic
Bi xenon Seller besides the usuals?
Anyone know of any sellers in THE WORLD besides Steve or performance products that sells new Bi Xenon's for a w203???
Any responses would make me very happy.
Any responses would make me very happy.
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Re: NEVERMINd!!!!
Originally posted by djbguitar
STEVE IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
STEVE IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2003 C230
03 C230K Sedan Bi-Xenon
I have a 2003 C230 Sedan with OEM Bi-Xenon.
Here is a pic of my Bi-Xenon at night. I feel the light doesn't project far enough.
My other car is a MDX with after market HID. I can see real far at night. I understadn MDX is a higher vehical so the light will project further.
I just feel I can't see far enough while driving at 70mph in my W203 at night.
By the way, the light pattern has a cut out on the driver side.
From the bumper to the valley of the cut out is about 33 feet.
All you W203 owners with OEM bi-Xenons. Do you have the same problem?
Here is a pic of my Bi-Xenon at night. I feel the light doesn't project far enough.
My other car is a MDX with after market HID. I can see real far at night. I understadn MDX is a higher vehical so the light will project further.
I just feel I can't see far enough while driving at 70mph in my W203 at night.
By the way, the light pattern has a cut out on the driver side.
From the bumper to the valley of the cut out is about 33 feet.
All you W203 owners with OEM bi-Xenons. Do you have the same problem?
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Re: 03 C230K Sedan Bi-Xenon
Originally posted by Taiwanese
By the way, the light pattern has a cut out on the driver side.
By the way, the light pattern has a cut out on the driver side.
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2003 C230K Sport Coupe, 1986 190E 2.3
My OEM's are fine. The problem may be the line where the beam ends. On a halogen light the beam blends with the night sky and with the design of the reflectors on the Bi-Xenons the beam just cuts off. You do not notice this on high beams because there is a secondary halogen high beam in the city lamp housing. Maybe yours are adjusted down a hair, I will have to look later and see if there are any adjustments on my coupe lights to raise them mechanically. They also auto adjust on startup, so check at night and make sure they are auto leveling when the vehicle is started. You will notice the ligths lower and then raise back up.
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I think I know what you guys mean. The bixenons are great 10x better than halogens BUT they dont seem to be as luminescent as my Audi's xenons. And not as blue too.
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Originally posted by mctwin2kman
Maybe yours are adjusted down a hair, I will have to look later and see if there are any adjustments on my coupe lights to raise them mechanically. They also auto adjust on startup, so check at night and make sure they are auto leveling when the vehicle is started. You will notice the ligths lower and then raise back up.
Maybe yours are adjusted down a hair, I will have to look later and see if there are any adjustments on my coupe lights to raise them mechanically. They also auto adjust on startup, so check at night and make sure they are auto leveling when the vehicle is started. You will notice the ligths lower and then raise back up.
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Thanks for all your input.
It's fine for city (low speed) driving. I just don't feel safe when driving on freeway because I can see far enough to avoid stuff on the road or sharp turns.
It's fine for city (low speed) driving. I just don't feel safe when driving on freeway because I can see far enough to avoid stuff on the road or sharp turns.
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Can someone elaborate on this autoleveling nonsense?
If we turn the lights angle up - thereby increasing distance, will the autoleveler bring the angle inside the housing (the reflector and lense assembly) down without bringing down the housing itself to compensate?
Or is it's job to simply figure out - ok, car is started, lights on - they are in position X and keep them there?
This has been bugging me a while now.
Thanks
If we turn the lights angle up - thereby increasing distance, will the autoleveler bring the angle inside the housing (the reflector and lense assembly) down without bringing down the housing itself to compensate?
Or is it's job to simply figure out - ok, car is started, lights on - they are in position X and keep them there?
This has been bugging me a while now.
Thanks
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first of all, great screenname...
second, when you have to see far, use the high beam when there's no car in front of you. When you can't use the high beam, it means there's car in front of you, you don't need to see that far.
third, you feel that way probably because you are still used to have street lamps everywhere on the highway like they do in Taiwan, which could cause glare when you are driving at night.
lastly, I don't think you'll be able to adjust the beam height when there's the autoleveling system.
second, when you have to see far, use the high beam when there's no car in front of you. When you can't use the high beam, it means there's car in front of you, you don't need to see that far.
third, you feel that way probably because you are still used to have street lamps everywhere on the highway like they do in Taiwan, which could cause glare when you are driving at night.
lastly, I don't think you'll be able to adjust the beam height when there's the autoleveling system.
Last edited by FrankW; Sep 13, 2003 at 05:27 AM.
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Of course you can adjust the headlight aiming on a car with auto-leveling.
Search the internet. There are a number of websites which will show you how to aim the headlights. This initial aiming will provide the baseline to which the auto-leveling system will adjust the aim as the load in the car changes. It seems that the factory aim is often lower than the specs allow.
Search the internet. There are a number of websites which will show you how to aim the headlights. This initial aiming will provide the baseline to which the auto-leveling system will adjust the aim as the load in the car changes. It seems that the factory aim is often lower than the specs allow.
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I have a similiar problem also. When driving next to a BMW or Audi, my Bi-Xenons seem more yellowish and not as bright as theirs.
I am thinking it's the design of the headlights. I thought it was the bulb, but my car has around 12k on it and it's still project somewhat yellowish on the road.
I am thinking it's the design of the headlights. I thought it was the bulb, but my car has around 12k on it and it's still project somewhat yellowish on the road.
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The bulbs used by Mercedes have a color temperature of 4300 degrees Kelvin, while the others are 6000 degrees Kelvin. So, the BMW's and Audi's will have bluer lights. The 4300 degree bulbs are closer to sunlight and are close to optimal for human vision.
If you really want the bluer light, you can change to the 6000 degree or even higher bulbs. You will pay around $150 per bulb.
If you really want the bluer light, you can change to the 6000 degree or even higher bulbs. You will pay around $150 per bulb.
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Originally posted by Lynn
The bulbs used by Mercedes have a color temperature of 4300 degrees Kelvin, while the others are 6000 degrees Kelvin. So, the BMW's and Audi's will have bluer lights. The 4300 degree bulbs are closer to sunlight and are close to optimal for human vision.
If you really want the bluer light, you can change to the 6000 degree or even higher bulbs. You will pay around $150 per bulb.
The bulbs used by Mercedes have a color temperature of 4300 degrees Kelvin, while the others are 6000 degrees Kelvin. So, the BMW's and Audi's will have bluer lights. The 4300 degree bulbs are closer to sunlight and are close to optimal for human vision.
If you really want the bluer light, you can change to the 6000 degree or even higher bulbs. You will pay around $150 per bulb.
Check out this page:
http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/hl-hid-bulbs.htm
Last edited by TomGuy; Sep 14, 2003 at 12:16 AM.
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Originally posted by Lynn
Okay, I will concede that some or even most BMW's and Audi's come with 4300 degree bulbs. But I still believe that some models, especially Audi's have higher temperature bulbs.
Okay, I will concede that some or even most BMW's and Audi's come with 4300 degree bulbs. But I still believe that some models, especially Audi's have higher temperature bulbs.
