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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Waylon Zeng
Thanks; sounds great. I've been toying with the idea of ordering the Meisterschaft, but I can't find a single sound clip and the manufacturer can't / won't even provide one. After hearing yours, I think I'll just do a muffler delete and wait for there to be more full exhaust options.
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtrema
I think it's due to Mercedes just named the new SLC with this engine as SLC43 instead of SLC450 (formerly SLK).

So I guess that's why there is a rumour of C450 adopting the same numbering as C43.

I know Mercs resell sucks anyway but it's gonna be tougher to gauge with all these once-and-done model years (C400 and potentially C450) of the same cars.

Now I think C43 has way more history than C450 in name. But we already have C63 as top of range, so have C43 and C63 is diluting the AMG brand even more. I think the AMG section of the forum is already losing there mind about AMG Sport branding, and totally hated on SLC43. This will make it even worse for AMG fanboys.
It is quite strange and I'm wondering what the end game for MB is by doing this. While the 43 does have history it's confusing when looking at the rest of the line up when you have a CLA/GLA 45 with a turbo 4 and a C43 with a TT V6.

Now I know it's been a while since the numbers represented the engine displacement but having the 45 AMG be a 4 cylinder and a 43 AMG be a 6 cylinder is silly.
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by D3S
Thanks; sounds great. I've been toying with the idea of ordering the Meisterschaft, but I can't find a single sound clip and the manufacturer can't / won't even provide one. After hearing yours, I think I'll just do a muffler delete and wait for there to be more full exhaust options.
Pretty much my thinking. I didn't know if I wanted to spend the $3000 yet on an exhaust system with no reviews so I decided to take out the muffler first
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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Thanks Bourne and Jonathan for your answers regarding the suspension. I am sure I will find a good compromise between dynamics and comfort. Anyway, my previous cars were pretty stiff as well and I never complained, I was just expecting significant differences between the suspension modes

Regarding C43, I think this is indeed confusing, there are now (like with Audi and BMW) 3 categories (MB "standard", AMG Sport, AMG), the name should clearly indicate in which category the car is !

At this stage, this is still rumour, let's wait official announcement
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinny007
Regarding C43, I think this is indeed confusing, there are now (like with Audi and BMW) 3 categories (MB "standard", AMG Sport, AMG), the name should clearly indicate in which category the car is !

At this stage, this is still rumour, let's wait official announcement
This car carries many different names in different markets.. Some have the 4MATIC nomenclature, some don't. same car. I THINK some markets even label the car with a "DTM" badge, certainly not here in the USA..

Having had a C43 in the past (buddy of mine and I shared it), I don't see them resurfacing that badge for this model. I think they like the CXYZ AMG badging and product differentiation - it's a new segment and all. We'll see, last time I saw my C43 it was upside down 15 feet in the air in a tree where it was parked for the last time. Replaced the next day with another. ;-)

Finally, MY C450 is here and it's being put through the paces - up to 4,000 paces mind you!

One thing I DO think about this model is that it will go UP in $$ in the next iterations and our first model years version will maintain their value well. (especially if you got 13% off retail ;-0 )
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by inhartwetrust
Is it true that this car will be called the C43 beginning with MY 2017?

Source:

http://5komma6.mercedes-benz-passion...enklatur-w205/

Saw this first in the comments of the review posted a few pages back, and there is an AMG press release that apparently says it too (another commenter said they read it and "unfortunately it looks to be true", although I didn't see it in the translated version).

Anyone else heard this?
That would really suck for those who are just about to order their c450's now if they in a very few months will come out with a c45 with handbuilt engine wich will boost the resell price. and actually put the car in the true amg family!

I know i would be pissed to have a semi real amg lol

http://www.motoring.com.au/mercedes-...-go-v6-100077/

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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Waylon Zeng
Pretty much my thinking. I didn't know if I wanted to spend the $3000 yet on an exhaust system with no reviews so I decided to take out the muffler first
I'm sending my car to misterchraft at the end of this month will have something for everyone after that
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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I have held off posting about an issue with my C450 accelerator peddle. I wanted to see if it was just a one-off but the following has now happened about 4 or 5 times.

In cold weather and just after the car is started, within 1 or 2 minutes at most, if you drive then, at the first stop (or almost stop, say 5mph or undeR), then upon attempting to accelerate away the peddle goes numb, does nothing.

This happened to me first about a month ago. I was coming down a slight hill out of my company's parking lot, maybe a 20 degree slope down, and came to a halt after getting up to maybe 30 mph. I slowed down to maybe 3 or 4 mph to turn right, the accelerator peddle did nothing. I had to hit it again and it sprang back to life.

This has now happened a half dozen or so times, always when it's very cold, always when the car makes its first stop after starting a minute or two prior. At least far as I can tell.

Has anyone else noticed this?
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tivoboy
This car carries many different names in different markets.. Some have the 4MATIC nomenclature, some don't. same car. I THINK some markets even label the car with a "DTM" badge, certainly not here in the USA..

Having had a C43 in the past (buddy of mine and I shared it), I don't see them resurfacing that badge for this model. I think they like the CXYZ AMG badging and product differentiation - it's a new segment and all. We'll see, last time I saw my C43 it was upside down 15 feet in the air in a tree where it was parked for the last time. Replaced the next day with another. ;-)

Finally, MY C450 is here and it's being put through the paces - up to 4,000 paces mind you!

One thing I DO think about this model is that it will go UP in $$ in the next iterations and our first model years version will maintain their value well. (especially if you got 13% off retail ;-0 )
Would be a very odd strategy to raise the price even more, given the fact it's already close to the real AMG price (with a few options) and higher than its direct competitors. Not sure I understand your logic here at all, but I guess we will see.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 09:03 AM
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Hey Waylon,


Can you provide some more details on the muffler delete? Did you simply remove them and run a straight pipe? If so, do you experience any drone?

I want my C450 to be louder but I can't yet justify $3,300 for a Meistershaft exhaust.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnathanswift
My "pedal" is just fine. What are you peddling?
I feel proud that I get "your" and "you're" right but "peddle" and "pedal" escape me.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Holy ****! 2016 is the one and only year for the C450

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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 12:24 PM
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 12:24 PM
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bibenstein
I have held off posting about an issue with my C450 accelerator peddle. I wanted to see if it was just a one-off but the following has now happened about 4 or 5 times.

In cold weather and just after the car is started, within 1 or 2 minutes at most, if you drive then, at the first stop (or almost stop, say 5mph or undeR), then upon attempting to accelerate away the peddle goes numb, does nothing.

This happened to me first about a month ago. I was coming down a slight hill out of my company's parking lot, maybe a 20 degree slope down, and came to a halt after getting up to maybe 30 mph. I slowed down to maybe 3 or 4 mph to turn right, the accelerator peddle did nothing. I had to hit it again and it sprang back to life.

This has now happened a half dozen or so times, always when it's very cold, always when the car makes its first stop after starting a minute or two prior. At least far as I can tell.

Has anyone else noticed this?
It has happened to me in multiple situations such as slowing down in traffic to switch lanes because of double parked cars or just slowing down while approaching a traffic light. Several times in each of those scenarios I have experienced this dead lag that occurs and I have posted this issue in other threads and have found that even someone who took recent delivery of the C450 had also experienced this issue (I took the very first US batch in the 3rd week of Dec). This same problem was also addressed in the most recent review of the C450 vs 340i by Autoguide.con which was posted a week ago.

I'm sure more and more people will start to experience it, especially if you drive a lot in urban environments due to the high frequency of decelerations followed by swift acceleration. Please note that this lag only occurs if you attempt to accelerate while your car is decelerating and this issue never occurs from a stop.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Holy ****! 2016 is the one and only year for the C450

http://blog.caranddriver.com/amg-spo...mercedes-amgs/
Makes sense to me...but im picking up a 450 in 2 weeks lol

https://www.instagram.com/p/_xVRY6yuJ2/
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stolenfire
Makes sense to me...but im picking up a 450 in 2 weeks lol

https://www.instagram.com/p/_xVRY6yuJ2/
To be honest i do not think the change is going to be anything dramatic anyway except the engine that gets a nameplate, and some badges slammed on in the rear. but still. i feel for you.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:22 PM
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GoodBye C450 AMG! I wonder if dealers would help rebadge the 2016 cars to AMG C43? I kinda want the AMG badge now, since its legit.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:25 PM
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GoodBye C450 AMG! I wonder if dealers would help rebadge the 2016 cars to AMG C43? I kinda want the AMG badge now, since its legit.
I would not worry to much about it untill we see something from a valid source. unless we have? Press always say a lot of stuff!
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:35 PM
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I would not worry to much about it untill we see something from a valid source. unless we have? Press always say a lot of stuff!
The instagramer that I took the picture from is quite legit...and it only makes sense since the new SLC is being named under the 43 moniker. However...if its just badge-ing then its not a big deal (easy to change).

With that said, i am now definitely set on leasing vs. financing. For what its worth, the Canadian residual for this month dropped to 61% from 63% if anyone is still shopping around.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stolenfire
The instagramer that I took the picture from is quite legit...and it only makes sense since the new SLC is being named under the 43 moniker. However...if its just badge-ing then its not a big deal (easy to change).

With that said, i am now definitely set on leasing vs. financing. For what its worth, the Canadian residual for this month dropped to 61% from 63% if anyone is still shopping around.
ok. Still would like to see some real release tho with some more info.
If the car is going to be the same but price popps up i am signing friday but if its changed in any way i am not signing untill i know how!
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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ok. Still would like to see some real release tho with some more info.
If the car is going to be the same but price popps up i am signing friday but if its changed in any way i am not signing untill i know how!
If i were you, I will definitely wait until late summer where the MY17 models get announced. If there are big changes without a significant price increase then definitely go for the newer model and by then you might be able to get a nice discount on the 450 if you deem the updates to be non-worthy or too expensive.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tivoboy
Having had a C43 in the past (buddy of mine and I shared it), I don't see them resurfacing that badge for this model. I think they like the CXYZ AMG badging and product differentiation - it's a new segment and all. We'll see, last time I saw my C43 it was upside down 15 feet in the air in a tree where it was parked for the last time. Replaced the next day with another. ;-)
They are for sure bringing back C43. My internal sources at MBUSA stated that much when I was in Detroit yesterday.
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