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Old May 28, 2016 | 01:47 AM
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Wow... Just discovered this thread and it's kind of sucked the wind right out of my sails as I was quite excited about this car.

Recently I was on the hunt for a C300 with driver assistance package and airmatic suspension, but with all the options, the price was reaching into C450 territory and there were none on any lots anyway. Figured the C450 was a much better buy for only a few thousand more and it has more standard options, a nicer interior, and of course more power and style plus IMO it had just the right mix of comfort and performance for a family sedan.

SO, the day before I go into the local dealership after shopping around all over for a C300 with driver assistance package (only 2 in the country found so I had decided to order one), I spec out a Polar White C450 for close to $60k with the dealer agreeing to ~10% off. I thought I had done a pretty good job negotiating the deal, as I spoke to 4 other dealers who let me walk because they said they weren't interested! I did all this knowing the C43 was on the horizon for 2017, but that car was getting a little too far on the AMG side of things for a family compromise and I don't mind the one year only C450 designation at all since it will be rare. Maybe insurance will even be lower even though it's the same car. I'm a little let down I didn't do more research as I could have probably reached the $10k off mark like some people have done here, but I guess I did ok and was able to deal locally so I don't have to go far to pick up the car.

I actually lost any further leverage when I went to go order the car because I had been discussing the C300 and there were plenty of build slots for those, but I flipped the script on order day and when my dealership tried to order the C450 slot, production was already shut down and it could not be ordered through their system! I saw him try it, and he had told me that this was the last week to get in a 2016 order too. I knew my options were limited because nobody orders the driver assist package and I knew I wouldn't find a car to my spec on any lot. Also, I knew MB was going to restructure their option packages in 2017 for the C43 which means I would have to get the $9k P4 package to get driver assistance aids (and I didn't want to order the Multimedia/Nav option since it's a waste of $2k IMO). I had to get the dealership to get in touch with the factory and pull some strings to make the car, so I was told I have the final C450 that is being produced. I hope it's not made on a Friday given some of the comments here about US production! Hopefully being late production means it will have some of the previous issues resolved upon delivery in July. I haven't liked any of Mercedes' designs since the 2000s so I was excited about this car, I think it's gorgeous and the interior is waaaaay ahead of it's class.

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Old May 29, 2016 | 05:07 PM
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Will be in Indianapolis and Chicago today and tomorrow if anyone wants to meet up
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Old May 29, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
Will be in Indianapolis and Chicago today and tomorrow if anyone wants to meet up
Your car have the Meisterschaft exhaust?
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Old May 29, 2016 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by autopal
Your car have the Meisterschaft exhaust?
Yes and no. I have part of it on but am going to get some parts swapped out that they changed the design
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Old May 30, 2016 | 03:11 PM
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Meisterschaft exhaust?

Cajun, despite not being the final unit, how does it sound?
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Old May 31, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sliqdaddy91
Cajun, despite not being the final unit, how does it sound?

It sounds incredible and I am going to pick it up Thursday and will have a full review up then. On a side note we are also getting the two AWE exhausts in early next month and will have reviews of them as well.

AMR is next on the list
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Old Jun 1, 2016 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
It sounds incredible and I am going to pick it up Thursday and will have a full review up then. On a side note we are also getting the two AWE exhausts in early next month and will have reviews of them as well.

AMR is next on the list
Cheers!!
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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 04:07 PM
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I land at 4PM Cst and am heading straight to GT HAUS to get the car. If anyone is interested in checking it out I'm driving it back to Louisiana and don't mind stopping along the way
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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
I land at 4PM Cst and am heading straight to GT HAUS to get the car. If anyone is interested in checking it out I'm driving it back to Louisiana and don't mind stopping along the way
How about a quick sound clip?
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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 05:25 PM
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How about a quick sound clip?
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 05:42 PM
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Is it true Cajun's car made 320 whp and 470wtq on GtHaus Mustang dyno?
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sliqdaddy91
Is it true Cajun's car made 320 whp and 470wtq on GtHaus Mustang dyno?
Keep in mind this was taken with an iPhone I promise better ones are coming soon


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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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Sounds good! Can't wait for the full videos
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 07:22 PM
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
More Videos are available here
Looking at the pics it seems like the meisterschaft design doesn't incorporate an x-pipe, or does it?
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
More Videos are available here
I might be the only one, but I hate videos with just the camera attached at the back over the exhaust. Give me internal sound clip and a decent drive by any day. Anyway, I appreciate the info, and waiting for more videos, information and price.
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 07:53 PM
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Sounds good, man! Thanks for posting the vids.
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 08:13 PM
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Based on the recent videos of the C43, it seems like AMG is hell bent on making aftermarket exhaust companies go out of business! The best sound I've heard so far, is the C43 with performance exhaust. The AWE tuning sounds good, but I don't think it's necessary with the C43
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by autopal
Based on the recent videos of the C43, it seems like AMG is hell bent on making aftermarket exhaust companies go out of business! The best sound I've heard so far, is the C43 with performance exhaust. The AWE tuning sounds good, but I don't think it's necessary with the C43
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 08:31 PM
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GTHaus Dyno Numbers

Cajun, you're numbers stated on the website are very very strong.

The mod list is OE flash and Full exhaust to produce the 384 whp and 435 wtq?

Awesome stuff man.
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sliqdaddy91
Cajun, you're numbers stated on the website are very very strong.

The mod list is OE flash and Full exhaust to produce the 384 whp and 435 wtq?

Awesome stuff man.
Correct and that's on a mustang Dyno so it should be +20-25 due to the variation between mustang and dynojet
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
Correct and that's on a mustang Dyno so it should be +20-25 due to the variation between mustang and dynojet
WHP? Or HP? That seems really high at the wheels... That would mean it's making like 465 at the motor? That's like c63 territory?
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 11:03 PM
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WHP? Or HP? That seems really high at the wheels... That would mean it's making like 465 at the motor? That's like c63 territory?
WHP...and it just goes to show that OE tune claims may in fact be true ( 450 hp, 533 tq) : )
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sliqdaddy91
WHP...and it just goes to show that OE tune claims may in fact be true ( 450 hp, 533 tq) : )
I wouldn't be surprised with those numbers. My car feels like a beast after the OE tune
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 01:30 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised with those numbers. My car feels like a beast after the OE tune
Ya man, another gent on here with the OE tune has run a stock 2016 m3 neck and neck until 80 mph (let off due to public roads) The M3 I speak of can trap close to 120 stock...Now I am not saying the m3 wouldn't edge it out at higher speeds, but the flash is significant. The OE tune has to be legitimate, based on what I've gathered the numbers are accurate.

The speedo shots of the c63 vs the c450 really diverge around 200 km/h...a good flash and it would be closer than many would expect.

It's sad, with a proper launch control on this car plus a flashed ECU, it would surprise the hell out of a lot of cars from a stop! Sub 4 to 60, I'd have no doubt with a good tire.

Imagine that performance in a car you can take to the snow, sleet, or rain....FUN.

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