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Greetings Benzinos!

I have received the attached quotation which includes $4100 for performance package pads & rotors replacement (front & rear)--not including service for around $200.

I'm wondering if there are any other ideas than paying this much?

The ideas I have:

- Aftermarket parts: what are some options for suppliers
- Second hand: not so keen on this
- Downgrade performance package to standard - I don't really thrash the car / take it on track so would be happy to downgrade... Is that even possible?

Notes:

- This quote was from a trusted indie dealer here in Dubai
- The car has 78,000 miles

Appreciate your guidance,

Alex

solekeeper

i have said it before and i'll say it again, we need an official "brakes" thread.

4k for brakes is preposterous.

m a x i m u s

Please search the forum. This has been discussed ad nauseum and there is a ton of good info available already.

avery.whss

Same here OP
I just got quoted $3200 for rotors, fronts are 2k alone, rear is 900...anyways ive tried searching but theres only stuff from 2008-2010 and all the links don't work...when I type in the part # on geniune MB it says front brakes are for a E63? is that right?

abcut973

Go aftermarket with RacingBrake or others. Better price for same or more performance.
Also do you really need to have your rotors changed? Check thickness. You might just need pads only at the moment.

avery.whss

my front "slits" are gone, and the lip is massive..no pulsing though but they are hooped


emailed racing brake, thanks for the name

abcut973

Yeah Racing brake are vendors in here.
But you have the girodics sold by ACG as well available for our platform.

rentzington

yup thats what id do instead of oem slotted.
cheaper and lighter if i remember right.

avery.whss

http://www.racingbrake.com/Two-piece...ONT-p/2141.htm

I know this might sound retarded but, it says "2 piece" is this for only the 2 piece rotors? or do they mean 2 piece as in..2 seperate rotors?

thanks for the help guys, im sure OP will appreciate it also

johnny--2k

it is indicating that it's a 2 piece rotor... just like the OEM PP brakes.

rentzington

its the disc and the hat, two separate pieces instead of the heavy one piece rotor.

Mort

Yes they are 2 piece rotors as mentioned and the price in the ad is for a pair of rotors. Includes pads as well.

thesaintusa

How many kilometers of driving to wear down the slots? Many track sessions?

That is impressive. Definitely would not be within spec to be that worn.

papashango

There is a huge thread here that talked about this. There is also an option of putting 'regular' non 2 piece rotors on PP cars. The non PP cars came with the regular one piece rotors that are RIDICULOUSLY cheaper than the 2 piece.

avery.whss

my car has 80,000KM on it and yeah i was kind of surprised the slots are worn considering the car sat for 4 months last year (2 fuel pumps and a new ignition) and ive had a suspended license since november until july (dont ask...nothing alcohol/speed related, canadas retarded) so it's barely been driven, but its worn for sure it has quite the lip

my city doesn't have a track, so no never but AMG is building one an hour away i might goto it eventually

Although...i have burned through 2 sets of brake pads in around 40,000 KM which does seem kind of excessive or is that normal? i always downshift and engine brake when i slow down, i try and avoid the pedal as much as possible

realjones88

The cheapest option is to go with regular C63 front rotors. Part # 2044211212

They are $170 each and weigh about 8 lbs more than the performance rotors. You will never notice the difference on a street car and will save like $1500.

Racing Brake is an alternative, but are not any cheaper really. You want cheap go with the one piece rotors that came on the vast majority of C63s.

RacingBrake

This complete (front and rear) car kit including rotors and performance street pads are the most popular replacement upgrade for C63 (non Black Series) in MB community.

http://www.racingbrake.com/Mercedes-.../mb-irk-18.htm

See how other MB owners said about RB brakes:

Received RacingBrake rotors today! p.s I will not go back to the dealer ever...

RacingBrake makes me happy

Does Rotor Weight Matters -
With RB 2pc rotors, you can save a total of 35 lbs for 4 corners -More than 30% of OE or aftermarket 1 pc rotors.:
The Ultimate Rotating & Unspring Mass Reduction Thread ...

papashango

Here is that thread I mentioned...if you guys want to stick to same/better spec than the original definitely go with Racing Brake. If money is an issue and you don't care for the the little performance that you'll lose by going one piece then getting the regular non PP pack 1 piece rotors is a good option. The price difference is like $800 per rotor!

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...rake-pads.html

RacingBrake

Good suggestion.

But just think why OE has to put more money in offering lighter weight rotors for more expensive models - Must be a reason...

So a sensible replacement is to be at least equal or better than OE, and RB two piece rotors fit in right into that category. A better two piece than OE two piece yet the cost difference only about half of OE.

papashango

I agree with the above, there must be something. Why get high performance cars and then cheap out to lower that performance. RB is on my list for the time when I will have to replace my brakes.

604 C63

I have the Girodiscs with the Porterfield R4s pads from ACG.

Cheaper, shaves a lot of unsprung weight, better feel, no noise or dust. They are also directionally vented, unlike the OEMs (on the OEM both sides are vented the same way - there is no L +/or R and as a result one side is vented the wrong way!!!). Thats the way to go I believe. Having said that I think there is some definite merit to going with the 1 piece rotors, even on the PP. The P30 rotors (which is where ALL the cost is - the 2 front rotors) do not provide ANY more stopping power. NONE. I seem to recall seeing stats that if anything stopping distance is marginally longer. The only time and place there is a benefit is on the track. They don't experience fade anywhere near what the non P30's do. I have owned and tracked both models. Non P30s are grease 20 minutes into your session, if not sooner, and P30 can rock a whole half hour session. Thats it, thats all, thats in its entirety what you are paying for when you buy the two piece rotor thats not a 2 piece and that you cant buy rings for. Now that I really think about it, its pissing me off.

Go aftermarket or go to the one piece rotors. It would be crazy to do anything else. The 'gains' do not justify the cost. I think the P30 pack was only 5-7k to begin with and that came with an LSD!

iSpool

How much does a PP brake job run in the states? Can you resurface rotors or do you have to swap them every time?

604 C63

Have to swap them every time. Here in Canada a PP brake job at the stealer was quoted to me as $5400Cdn (about $4500US). For less than half that I got better, lighter rotors that have replaceable rings (about 600 a pair) and much better pads that wear longer and have less dust and no noise, and a can of Blue Dot and did the damn job myself one Sunday afternoon. I tossed a couple of Diet Coke in the fridge when I started and when I finished they werent even all that cold yet. Easy job.

Parts upgrade? check.
Money saved? check.
Time saved vs going into the shop? check.

All round win if you ask me. Not only that, but it makes my wife hot when she sees me doing 'manly' things. Thats why I put two DC in the fridge. Knew I was gonna want another one later. Tossed around some brake terms like 'bedded' and let the subliminal effect take hold

Eric ATP

Like other have said. If you WANT or NEED the performance the RB option is the best right now.

I live in GA and regularly get up into north Georgia and North Carolina. I went with the inexpensive single piece rotors for about $150 each. I regularly drive "the tail of the dragon", "six gap", Devils Triangle, and many other great roads we have available. I can't feel or measure any difference vs the P31 single piece rotors I removed.

Now if you track day and want the extra performance at higher speeds and aggressive braking I would vote hell yes for the RB set. They are very nice and the vendor really seems to be legit.

No one choice is correct.

VaclavSV

I replaced my P31 set on my old sedan w/ this setup and was VERY happy!