55 engine in 2001 CLK430?
11-13-2008, 04:29 AM
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2 W210 E55, CLK 63, S65, Infinity Qx56, Taurus SHO - all heavy moded, Porsche Cayenne Turbo stock
55 engine in 2001 CLK430?
Got a CLK430 for my wife - now she wants to go faster. I was thinking what instead of doing bolt-ons I could get E55 NA engine and put it in. Is trainy in that CLK same as the one used in 55's. Any potential problems?
What about breaks - do I need to up them? Would breaks from W210 E55 work?
What about breaks - do I need to up them? Would breaks from W210 E55 work?
11-13-2008, 06:03 AM
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her a different car.If you found a low mile E55 engine you would need the engine,the harness the trans the tcu the ecu the ignition switch the alarm system.And transfer them all into the CLK.They are all married to each other
and can't be transplanted apart.It can be done.Money no object
The questions are.Why does she need to go faster? And are you willing to spend more than the value of the car,to satisfy her need
Brakes would be a whole different issue.First take her out on Robert Moses some night let her get to 130 and stab the brakes in the stock 430.My bet is she has the guts for neither.
and can't be transplanted apart.It can be done.Money no object
The questions are.Why does she need to go faster? And are you willing to spend more than the value of the car,to satisfy her need
Brakes would be a whole different issue.First take her out on Robert Moses some night let her get to 130 and stab the brakes in the stock 430.My bet is she has the guts for neither.
11-13-2008, 07:58 AM
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2001 clk55 AMG
The 55N/A engine bolt to your trans and plug into your harness no problem!
If you want to use the e55 trans you will need to change the output flange because yours is a 3 bolt and the E55 is a 4 bolt other than that you can get a stock Clk55 tune from your local dealer or contact a tuner of your choice and get a performance tune.
If you need an E55 engine let me know I can get them with low miles for around 4k
If you want to use the e55 trans you will need to change the output flange because yours is a 3 bolt and the E55 is a 4 bolt other than that you can get a stock Clk55 tune from your local dealer or contact a tuner of your choice and get a performance tune.
If you need an E55 engine let me know I can get them with low miles for around 4k
11-13-2008, 09:30 AM
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her a different car.If you found a low mile E55 engine you would need the engine,the harness the trans the tcu the ecu the ignition switch the alarm system.And transfer them all into the CLK.They are all married to each other
and can't be transplanted apart.It can be done.Money no object
The questions are.Why does she need to go faster? And are you willing to spend more than the value of the car,to satisfy her need
Brakes would be a whole different issue.First take her out on Robert Moses some night let her get to 130 and stab the brakes in the stock 430.My bet is she has the guts for neither.
and can't be transplanted apart.It can be done.Money no object
The questions are.Why does she need to go faster? And are you willing to spend more than the value of the car,to satisfy her need
Brakes would be a whole different issue.First take her out on Robert Moses some night let her get to 130 and stab the brakes in the stock 430.My bet is she has the guts for neither.
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11-13-2008, 09:55 AM
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Got a CLK430 for my wife - now she wants to go faster. I was thinking what instead of doing bolt-ons I could get E55 NA engine and put it in. Is trainy in that CLK same as the one used in 55's. Any potential problems?
What about breaks - do I need to up them? Would breaks from W210 E55 work?
What about breaks - do I need to up them? Would breaks from W210 E55 work?
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11-13-2008, 05:27 PM
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What year is your CLK430? I heard pre 00 they have a differentelectric plug on the trans. I dont remember the exact cuoff date though. When the trans on my 99 CLK430 went I ordered one from a E55 and the shop said the plug was different. Just an FYI.
Selling your 430 and buying a 55 may be the cheaper and easier route
Yea, Kleemann charger costs about as much as a used CLK55 nowadays! Did you see the CLK55 that sold for 11,500? WHAT A BARGAIN!
Selling your 430 and buying a 55 may be the cheaper and easier route
Yea, Kleemann charger costs about as much as a used CLK55 nowadays! Did you see the CLK55 that sold for 11,500? WHAT A BARGAIN!
11-13-2008, 06:29 PM
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I was thinking more along the lines of a House of Power setup. Not sure how much they run though, but I would assume a good amount less than Kleemann. Their Stage I puts down a good 140bhp bump over stock to the wheels.
http://www.hopracing.com/HoP%20Stg%20I.php
I would honestly buy a faster car and save the hassle. But if you more power out of your current ride, then you have some other options to play with besides doing a swap.
http://www.hopracing.com/HoP%20Stg%20I.php
I would honestly buy a faster car and save the hassle. But if you more power out of your current ride, then you have some other options to play with besides doing a swap.
11-13-2008, 07:07 PM
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2 W210 E55, CLK 63, S65, Infinity Qx56, Taurus SHO - all heavy moded, Porsche Cayenne Turbo stock
its a 2001 Cabriolet. And I would have to replace it with CLK55 Cabrio (earliest is 2002)- a little bit more $$$ 
then engine for $3600 and swap for $1400. Plus I could sell old engine and get back like a grand
then engine for $3600 and swap for $1400. Plus I could sell old engine and get back like a grand
11-13-2008, 09:28 PM
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Take a look at how cheap these AMG 5.5L N/A motors are selling for! 5k to 6k and another 1500.00 to install.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories
What is the big hassel that you state Jon?
Took a couple of hours to install mine and have the car running. Still cheaper than trading in for and buying a 2001 CLK.
What year is your CLK430? I heard pre 00 they have a differentelectric plug on the trans. I dont remember the exact cuoff date though. When the trans on my 99 CLK430 went I ordered one from a E55 and the shop said the plug was different. Just an FYI.
Selling your 430 and buying a 55 may be the cheaper and easier route
Yea, Kleemann charger costs about as much as a used CLK55 nowadays! Did you see the CLK55 that sold for 11,500? WHAT A BARGAIN!
Selling your 430 and buying a 55 may be the cheaper and easier route
Yea, Kleemann charger costs about as much as a used CLK55 nowadays! Did you see the CLK55 that sold for 11,500? WHAT A BARGAIN!
Right now there are 5 or 6 5.5L C43's known in the US. not that much different than a CLK430 as far as dropping in the motor and bolting up the tranny. It's even a lot simpler than dropping in a E36 M3 3.2l motor into an E36 325i(s) which I did as well.
Also.I'm surprised you found a CLK55 selling so cheap Ahmad. Probably has over 150k miles on it.
Show me one that has run 12's and I'll partially agree.
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11-13-2008, 10:47 PM
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That supercharger kit bumps power output for the 4.3L up to 360 rwhp. A stock 5.4L makes roughly 290-300 rwhp stock. So if the cost of a full motor swap along with necessary bolt-on's to raise power to 360 rwhp is below that of the HoP supercharger, then it would be the better route. However, I doubt that is the case, so the supercharger sounds like a better bet cost-wise and with regard to ease of installation as well. At least that's how I see it.
11-14-2008, 02:19 AM
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RIGHT BlackOnBlackCLK
You happen to think it is a bolt in swap.The engine is dumb ,the electronics are not.A 430 ecu will not control a 55,a C43 ECU will adapt and that is why it is a common swap.
It is not a simple bolt in,tune the ecu and call it done job.
I like swaps,in this case he would be far better off selling the 430 and getting her a 55,after the above test is performed to see how fast she really wants to go.
Put a 50 shot of funny gas onto it and let her hit the button every few days.
No harm in trying though,if you say you can do it and it is no problem,just a simple bolt in job.Collect his 5Grand that he thinks it will run and prove it to me.If you want to hit me on the head with a hammer,come in on budget and have the car running without a problem.I bet you can't do it for under $12,000 and is the op ready to pass that cash onto your guess that the 55 into a 430 swap is just as easy as that.
With nice 01 430's selling in the 15's and 03 55's in the low 20's. A 12grand swap makes neither rhyme nor reason.Unless he is a glutton for punishment when his wife gets a ride in what a real CLK55 can do and look like.
But If you say you can do it,I believe you But you better do your math first before boldly committing to the job.15k for the clk430,4K for the engine you can get him,adapt the ecu from the 430 or swap in the 55's,Check the trans specs and adaptations,Your labor(unless you are doing it gratis) fluids,tuning time or do you have that knowledge and equipment as well?That you will donate for free to complete his wifes desire to go faster.
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who is going to do such a job?
the guy that thinks he can do it with no problems,and free labor.That's who
It is not a simple bolt in,tune the ecu and call it done job.
I like swaps,in this case he would be far better off selling the 430 and getting her a 55,after the above test is performed to see how fast she really wants to go.
Put a 50 shot of funny gas onto it and let her hit the button every few days.
No harm in trying though,if you say you can do it and it is no problem,just a simple bolt in job.Collect his 5Grand that he thinks it will run and prove it to me.If you want to hit me on the head with a hammer,come in on budget and have the car running without a problem.I bet you can't do it for under $12,000 and is the op ready to pass that cash onto your guess that the 55 into a 430 swap is just as easy as that.
With nice 01 430's selling in the 15's and 03 55's in the low 20's. A 12grand swap makes neither rhyme nor reason.Unless he is a glutton for punishment when his wife gets a ride in what a real CLK55 can do and look like.
But If you say you can do it,I believe you
But you better do your math first before boldly committing to the job.15k for the clk430,4K for the engine you can get him,adapt the ecu from the 430 or swap in the 55's,Check the trans specs and adaptations,Your labor(unless you are doing it gratis) fluids,tuning time or do you have that knowledge and equipment as well?That you will donate for free to complete his wifes desire to go faster.Originally Posted by TuneTime View Post
who is going to do such a job?
the guy that thinks he can do it with no problems,and free labor.That's who
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11-14-2008, 09:39 AM
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Actually, yes it is. KLEEMANN can provide ECU programs to make the 5.4L work. We can also provide EGS (TCU) programs to make the trans shift like a 55, although it's not necessary to make the swap work. It's very straight forward. I've done this for a client who put a N/A 55 engine in his E430, and a client who put a N/A 55 engine in his ML500.
11-14-2008, 04:07 PM
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Actually, yes it is. KLEEMANN can provide ECU programs to make the 5.4L work. We can also provide EGS (TCU) programs to make the trans shift like a 55, although it's not necessary to make the swap work. It's very straight forward. I've done this for a client who put a N/A 55 engine in his E430, and a client who put a N/A 55 engine in his ML500.
11-14-2008, 04:12 PM
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You happen to think it is a bolt in swap.The engine is dumb ,the electronics are not.A 430 ecu will not control a 55,a C43 ECU will adapt and that is why it is a common swap.
It is not a simple bolt in,tune the ecu and call it done job.
I like swaps,in this case he would be far better off selling the 430 and getting her a 55,after the above test is performed to see how fast she really wants to go.
Put a 50 shot of funny gas onto it and let her hit the button every few days.
No harm in trying though,if you say you can do it and it is no problem,just a simple bolt in job.Collect his 5Grand that he thinks it will run and prove it to me.If you want to hit me on the head with a hammer,come in on budget and have the car running without a problem.I bet you can't do it for under $12,000 and is the op ready to pass that cash onto your guess that the 55 into a 430 swap is just as easy as that.
With nice 01 430's selling in the 15's and 03 55's in the low 20's. A 12grand swap makes neither rhyme nor reason.Unless he is a glutton for punishment when his wife gets a ride in what a real CLK55 can do and look like.
But If you say you can do it,I believe you But you better do your math first before boldly committing to the job.15k for the clk430,4K for the engine you can get him,adapt the ecu from the 430 or swap in the 55's,Check the trans specs and adaptations,Your labor(unless you are doing it gratis) fluids,tuning time or do you have that knowledge and equipment as well?That you will donate for free to complete his wifes desire to go faster.
Originally Posted by TuneTime View Post
who is going to do such a job?
the guy that thinks he can do it with no problems,and free labor.That's who
It is not a simple bolt in,tune the ecu and call it done job.
I like swaps,in this case he would be far better off selling the 430 and getting her a 55,after the above test is performed to see how fast she really wants to go.
Put a 50 shot of funny gas onto it and let her hit the button every few days.
No harm in trying though,if you say you can do it and it is no problem,just a simple bolt in job.Collect his 5Grand that he thinks it will run and prove it to me.If you want to hit me on the head with a hammer,come in on budget and have the car running without a problem.I bet you can't do it for under $12,000 and is the op ready to pass that cash onto your guess that the 55 into a 430 swap is just as easy as that.
With nice 01 430's selling in the 15's and 03 55's in the low 20's. A 12grand swap makes neither rhyme nor reason.Unless he is a glutton for punishment when his wife gets a ride in what a real CLK55 can do and look like.
But If you say you can do it,I believe you
But you better do your math first before boldly committing to the job.15k for the clk430,4K for the engine you can get him,adapt the ecu from the 430 or swap in the 55's,Check the trans specs and adaptations,Your labor(unless you are doing it gratis) fluids,tuning time or do you have that knowledge and equipment as well?That you will donate for free to complete his wifes desire to go faster.Originally Posted by TuneTime View Post
who is going to do such a job?
the guy that thinks he can do it with no problems,and free labor.That's who
11-14-2008, 06:51 PM
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You happen to think it is a bolt in swap.The engine is dumb ,the electronics are not.A 430 ecu will not control a 55,a C43 ECU will adapt and that is why it is a common swap.
It is not a simple bolt in,tune the ecu and call it done job.
I like swaps,in this case he would be far better off selling the 430 and getting her a 55,after the above test is performed to see how fast she really wants to go.
Put a 50 shot of funny gas onto it and let her hit the button every few days.
No harm in trying though,if you say you can do it and it is no problem,just a simple bolt in job.Collect his 5Grand that he thinks it will run and prove it to me.If you want to hit me on the head with a hammer,come in on budget and have the car running without a problem.I bet you can't do it for under $12,000 and is the op ready to pass that cash onto your guess that the 55 into a 430 swap is just as easy as that.
With nice 01 430's selling in the 15's and 03 55's in the low 20's. A 12grand swap makes neither rhyme nor reason.Unless he is a glutton for punishment when his wife gets a ride in what a real CLK55 can do and look like.
But If you say you can do it,I believe you But you better do your math first before boldly committing to the job.15k for the clk430,4K for the engine you can get him,adapt the ecu from the 430 or swap in the 55's,Check the trans specs and adaptations,Your labor(unless you are doing it gratis) fluids,tuning time or do you have that knowledge and equipment as well?That you will donate for free to complete his wifes desire to go faster.
Originally Posted by TuneTime View Post
who is going to do such a job?
the guy that thinks he can do it with no problems,and free labor.That's who
It is not a simple bolt in,tune the ecu and call it done job.
I like swaps,in this case he would be far better off selling the 430 and getting her a 55,after the above test is performed to see how fast she really wants to go.
Put a 50 shot of funny gas onto it and let her hit the button every few days.
No harm in trying though,if you say you can do it and it is no problem,just a simple bolt in job.Collect his 5Grand that he thinks it will run and prove it to me.If you want to hit me on the head with a hammer,come in on budget and have the car running without a problem.I bet you can't do it for under $12,000 and is the op ready to pass that cash onto your guess that the 55 into a 430 swap is just as easy as that.
With nice 01 430's selling in the 15's and 03 55's in the low 20's. A 12grand swap makes neither rhyme nor reason.Unless he is a glutton for punishment when his wife gets a ride in what a real CLK55 can do and look like.
But If you say you can do it,I believe you
But you better do your math first before boldly committing to the job.15k for the clk430,4K for the engine you can get him,adapt the ecu from the 430 or swap in the 55's,Check the trans specs and adaptations,Your labor(unless you are doing it gratis) fluids,tuning time or do you have that knowledge and equipment as well?That you will donate for free to complete his wifes desire to go faster.Originally Posted by TuneTime View Post
who is going to do such a job?
the guy that thinks he can do it with no problems,and free labor.That's who
The MB Lord hath Spoken!COREY! When can I send you my ECU!
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