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Old 01-25-2017, 05:07 AM
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My problem was wrong video cable.
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This is a really amazing retrofit to do!
The question is : How much can it cost for a w204? and does everything works like the driving mode econo to sport+ to individual?
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Depends first on where you are located and then what setup you have now. And there is no facia that fits the FL w204 since it was not released for W204.
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I'm living in canada do you take a used comand out of a wreck car?
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Thats hard. You need theft code and Map pin code. This I can provide with my comands...
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So!! Heres where I am now...

2010-2012 W212/W207:
You need new ESP.
This is possible IF you DONT have parametric steering and NO distronic!
If you have that it is impossible to make it work since speed signal is encryped.
So ALL works but navigation. You can do carplay and run navi from phone though.

2012-2015 W212/W207:
Your in luck!
All works fine since it has a totally different esp than 2010-2012.
When exactly om 2012 was the upgrade?
What is about car with electric steering, distronic and production 02/2012.
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Hello all!!!

I decided to aproach this a bit differently than I usally do... I will do a youtube Video Series of it all..

So PLEASE check it out and hit subscribe if you like it. And you would make me very happy if you hit the LIKE button and share it with fellow Mercedes buffs...

My Youtube clip and channel:

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Old 03-09-2017, 08:21 PM
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Do you know if i can swap my small 5'' screen for a NTG4 COMAND 7" pop up screen and keep the 5'' unit. The screen resolution will be good? Thanks!
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OK..Thanx..Let me know if you need anything. Have ALOT for of facelift duplicates for sale..


Chris, Need your help with some information.
I apologize if this is not the appropriate thread to address this issue, but I could not find a better one.


I have a 2016 E300 (W212) FL with HU5S1 and firmware recently updated to High_CY15_9
I want to activate Apple Carplay, Android Auto and Mirror Link, but the dealer service centre refuses to do so. Do you have any information if the Crux CAPMB-51 will work on my car??
http://www.cruxinterfacing.com/produ...-51/index.html
Is there any easier way to activate these options??
Regret I do not have access to Vediamo.


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Apple Carplay, Android Auto and Mirror Link

These are the only 3 think I have no clue on...
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Can anyone tell me when NTG 5.1 was introduced into US-Spec W212s? From what I understand, 2016s definitely have it, but what about 2015s?
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I believe 2015 = NTG 4.5 generation 3
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I believe 2015 = NTG 4.5 generation 3
Thanks Konigstiger. Any idea what features 5.1 has over 4.5g3?
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Thanks Konigstiger. Any idea what features 5.1 has over 4.5g3?
You can start by looking here:

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Parts I used:

A2465408401 wires
A2469055403 5s1 camera set
camera w246 fur NTG5 is A2469052303
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ThnX Chris! My 5s1 unit is underway.
Just want to have a few things cleared up

Car is Okt. 2010 C207:
- Navigation does not get speed signal, this was with you at first, because you ugraded your SAM units for facelift project, did I understand it correctly that this WILL work with my original sam units? No need to upgrade PDC?
- I need to upgrade my multicontroller to the facelift one correct? Is this one the same controller for all APS / COMAND units? Or do I need a a specific version?
- can the unit now be coded to the VIN? Understood the 5s1 was never shipped in a C207? so how can I upgrade maps/firmware via the dealer? Or do I need to buy hacked pins and torrent maps in order to update? I much prefer licensed versions from official channels.
- if the unit can't be tied to my VIN, how do I get the 3 Apple car play updates to be downloaded via an update?
- if the unit is not tied to my VIN how to I get COMAND OS / firmware version updates?
- I've got no rear camera, so no issues there.

I understood everything that's on the unit now, will work, but if the unit is stuck at whatever firmware / maps are on there now, how do I upgrade, have been been able to grab the updates and inject them offline?

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Yes.
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2016 was shipped with 5s1. No dealer so far agreed to do this. I do it all my self and have all pins and maps if you bought it from me. But do try with the dealer.
Never seen one that had car paly work
Not possible
Maps are no problem to update if you get the corect items.
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Yes.
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2016 was shipped with 5s1. No dealer so far agreed to do this. I do it all my self and have all pins and maps if you bought it from me. But do try with the dealer.
Never seen one that had car paly work
Not possible
Maps are no problem to update if you get the corect items.
ThnX Chris, so just to be clear, you managed to get your unit uploaded and added to your VIN? I now understand how to work the pins and maps offline, but still wondering if you managed to get the ntg5s1 added to your datacard?
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No need for me to do that..
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Can you upload new pictures
I can not see any picture in your thread.
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There is good hope on the SCN coding via Vedoc, if this works, Carplay will work fitting will be next Monday, very excited
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This is what I figured out so far of the rear.

And the pinout is as I think:

15 2.5mm Red and Blue +12v (20amp fused feed from F26 in front SAM)
12 2.5mm Brown, Ground
11 2.5mm Bround, Ground
9 0.75mm Blue and White. Mute input from E-Call or Telematics
16 0.5mm Blue/Black - MOST Wakeup

14 0.5mm Blue/Green = Wakeup output to the multimedia connection unit
13 Ground for multimedia connection unit BUT not used for codes 505/522/531 - But used if you have Telematics Service Unit
10 0.5mm Ground also goes to the multimedia connection unit

the black-12-pin subconnector (Connector C on the wiring diagram), it has 2 CAN connections
Body Can (Brown/Red to pin 9, and Brown to pin 3)
Telematics Can Black.White to pin 10, and Black to pin 4)
5,6,7,11,12 are the ethernet connection to the diagnostic socket for uploading online-manual from Star Diagnosis

Without Telematics CAN the display can not turn on

DISPLAY wiring - just in case this has changed
Pin 2 = +12v (red/white)
Pin 1 = Ground
Pin 8 = Telematics can black/white
pin 4 = Telematics can black
3,5,6,7 not connected
I can not see any picture about repinning of cables in sockets on this forum and your Facebook.
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Good news, the pin has been added online in Vedoc, so, once the carplay kit is coded we will see if the 3 needed updates come through, which will enable carplay.
The other good news is with being added to Vedoc, this also makes licensed navigation updates possible rather than buying rogue cracked warez codes.
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