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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TODLowe
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I had the field measure unit done about a month ago. Submitted all paperwork.

I'm curious, has anyone who qualifies received a cheque yet?
Yes, but it seems to depend on whether you are the original owner or not.
I emailed the settlement admin because someone reported they got their 2600 after about 3 months from filed sensor work and completing the paperwork. They said have patience, original owners and lessees first and then the current owners.
Hope that clarifies.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonF
Im in a similar situation, I have a 2016 E250 BlueTec, Im not a big fan of the AdBlue system. Nevertheless I also cant complain about a cheque. I aquired the car in June this year, do I fall in this bracket? And is it worth it? From what I read I notice that a lot of the cars after the field measure seem to loose power. Should this affect me? I am planning on installing a hitch on it closer to summer and Tow my ATV,s and perhaps my 17ft Boat.
No loss in power I can tell... the extended warranty and cheque are worth quite a bit. I had two hoses replaced, one to meet the field measure criterai and the other one shortly after. My local mechanic says, 600 for each hose is common, so there's 1200$
Only issue I notice with my '13 GLK is higher city mileage, but on the highway seems a bit better.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 02:33 PM
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Green Lane in Thornhill, part of the New Roads group now. They specialized in sprinters, but my own mechanic has friends there and evidently they like doing all the diesels.
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Old Nov 15, 2022 | 11:40 PM
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Hey guys just wondering if they'll look at it if you've done the adblue delete?
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 02:29 AM
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Hey guys just wondering if they'll look at it if you've done the adblue delete?
Oh sure... they'll also look at it if you've done an engine swap from a Toyota forklift.
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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 07:48 PM
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It Was an extensive work done by the dealership to install the field measure in our 09 R320. with 290k
Not an easy experience because the car had to return multiple times which should be expected base on the extent of the repair

We opted to have the oil cooler seal replacement at an additional cost
LOTS of new parts installed including fuel pressure lines and injectors.

But I’m still not able to see 6.5 liters to 100klms that the get before the work was done. I will give it some time for the system to relearn again. 8/100klm is so far the best i can get 2000klms into field measure
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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 08:05 PM
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It Was an extensive work done by the dealership to install the field measure in our 09 R320. with 290k
Not an easy experience because the car had to return multiple times which should be expected base on the extent of the repair

We opted to have the oil cooler seal replacement at an additional cost
LOTS of new parts installed including fuel pressure lines and injectors.

But I’m still not able to see 6.5 liters to 100klms that the get before the work was done. I will give it some time for the system to relearn again. 8/100klm is so far the best i can get 2000klms into field measure
If you were seeing 6.5 l / 100 km, I would suggest that your fuel consumption readings were completely off. There is no way on earth that a 5,000 lb R320 would get anywhere near that unless you were always driving downhill. Anything below 10 l / 100 km is a bonus. Even 8 is pretty much impossible (I am talking about what you may average, not what you may see instantaneously when you lift off).
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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 08:21 PM
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owned the car for 10yrs driven over 200k
My calculations is based on my regular route roughly 75kms and the car is 85% maintenance done by me.

My R320 is an amazing super fuel efficient family car and why we kept it, we have a name for it “ VESSEL AND ITS IN immaculate condition.

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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 08:37 PM
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They actually are great cars... unloved in America as they're neither SUVs nor mini-vans, but they have all the cargo space, utility and luxury you'd expect from a Benz. Glad it is serving you well, and with all the stuff they replace on the '09s and the additional warranty (plus the fact that you're driving it over longer distances and giving the oil a chance to fully warm up and have any diesel and moisture from the sump evaporate), it will hopefully serve you for a long time to come.
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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 09:01 PM
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Yes very Unique shape which I think is the most significant reason for the fuel economy compared to other models. aerodynamic sharp deduces drag.
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Old Dec 20, 2022 | 07:39 AM
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First step in dealer process for Bluetec Settlement. If you have a DPF/SCR delete , they stop the process and give u back the key , because the car isnt in the originale form. DPF/SCR and both NOX sensor and SOOT sensor need to be there for the repairs.

IF u only have a tune. Repairs will be done, but after all the components are install, dealer will do a 30min ecu's coding/update. so you will lost you Tune data.

This is my 2 cents, but when the Bluetec settlement ServiceAction is done. you get a extra warranty of 4years/77 0000km extra on many things :
-all adblue components (all heating elements,pump , injectors) EXCEPT THE ADBLUE PRESSURE LINE (i know its stupid)
-all exhaust components ( nox, soot, temperature system)
-EGR systems (valve, duct, cooler, temperature sensor)
-Intake manifold (swirl flap and motor)
- TIMING CHAIN. (if it noisy at start up, go replaced it under warranty)
-turbocharged
-PCV
-MAF sensor
-Engine heads (valve train, ect)
-Injectors

Hi @alyqc Could please elaborate on this "- TIMING CHAIN. (if it noisy at start up, go replaced it under warranty)" Timing chain on my 2014 GL350 is definitely noisy on cold startups but it wasn't replaced during field measure work.
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Old Dec 20, 2022 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AkTech
Hi @alyqc Could please elaborate on this "- TIMING CHAIN. (if it noisy at start up, go replaced it under warranty)" Timing chain on my 2014 GL350 is definitely noisy on cold startups but it wasn't replaced during field measure work.
The dealership can't "look for work" that needs to be done. So when they did the field measure, even if your timing chain was noisy they couldn't work on it.

Take it back and claim it under extended warranty.

However, search for my post on replacing timing chain tensioner and try that first. It wasn't expensive, and is quite an easy job (under 1hr). Better to do that than to pay the dealership an hour of labour only to find that you need a tensioner (which they will quote a major high price for!) and you'll have to pay for the diagnosis PLUS the tensioner at that point.

Replacing my tensioner fixed the noise completely.

After replacing the tensioner if it is still noisy, then go after them 100% for replacing the timing chain because that is then definitely the problem, it IS covered under warranty, and it is relatively expensive to replace.
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bha
Take it back and claim it under extended warranty.
Do you know how do I get a copy of that extended warranty policy? It would be great to have all the details in writing when speaking with the service department!

Originally Posted by bha
However, search for my post on replacing timing chain tensioner and try that first. It wasn't expensive, and is quite an easy job (under 1hr)
That makes sense, I will look into that!
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 12:42 AM
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Do you know how do I get a copy of that extended warranty policy? It would be great to have all the details in writing when speaking with the service department!
I think I have found it online: warranty-extension-covered-components_en_ca.pdf (mercedes-benz.ca)


Here is full list:

The Extended Modification Warranty shall cover the cost of parts and labour needed to repair the following parts: • Diesel Oxidation Catalyst (DOC) • Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) • Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) Catalyst • Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) Injector • Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) Injector Controller • Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) Supply Module • Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) Pump • Temperature Sensor Unit (DEF Temperature Sensor) • Exhaust Temperature Sensor • Particulate Matter (PM) Sensor • Lambda Sensor (Emission Modification Categories 1-5 ONLY) • NOx Sensors • Fuel Injectors • Air Intake Throttle • Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve • Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Duct • Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Cooler (including bypass control) • Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Temperature Sensor • Intake Manifold/Charge Air Distributor • Turbocharger (including VGT Actuator) • Engine Control Unit (ECU) Hardware (where replaced as part of the Approved Emission Modification) • Transmission Control Unit (TCU) Hardware (where replaced as part of the Approved Emission Modification) • Hydraulic Control Unit (HCU) Hardware (where replaced as part of the Approved Emission Modification) • Cylinder Head Assembly Components (camshafts, valves, springs, valve spring keepers, valve seats, cam bearing caps, and manifold studs) • Engine Timing Chain • Intake Manifold Pressure Sensor • Instrument Cluster Hardware (where replaced as part of the Approved Emission Modification) • Coolant Thermostat (where replaced as part of the Approved Emission Modification) • Crankcase Ventilation Valve (including line and heating element)
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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 11:12 AM
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My 2011 R350 was booked into MB Midtown in Toronto on December 20 - two days before taking it in they cancelled the appointment due to non-availability of parts. How they didn't know they didn't have the parts a bit more in advance was strange as they were the one to book it in as they did have the parts! Now tentatively booked for Feb 1, but they really have no idea when to expect parts in so I suspect that date will get pushed as well.

Has anyone been able to get the field measure done in or around Toronto in the last month or so? It really just seems like they're dragging their feet trying to avoid doing the install
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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 11:41 AM
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Try MB Oakville Autohaus. They were really good about making sure they had the parts before even booking me in. They specifically mentioned it

Mine was done last April though. But hopefully they are still really good.
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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 12:55 PM
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Thanks - I've put in a call to see if they have parts to do it. MB Midtown is saying all the Canadian dealerships are waiting on parts, but it's still worth me making a few calls to the other dealers as I don't mind travelling a bit to get it done fi that's what I have to do.

Unfortunately the CEL light is on and the code is for the intake port shutoff actuator, which is one of the parts due to be changed. I'm going to be selling the car so I'd like to get this taken care of first.
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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 05:21 PM
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Hi all,

Apologies if this is the wrong place but I'm from Toronto and was looking to buy a used 2014 ML 350 bluetec. I've read online that as a result of this class action lawsuit, the warranty gets extended on certain parts (read the list above) and that owners that buy their vehicle after Dec 2021 are also eligible if the car does not have a field sensor. My questions for you guys are as follows:
  • Is anything wrong with my understanding? This seems like a no-brainer given warranty will be extended (for parts listed above) for up to 4 years
  • For those of you based around Toronto, have you found a good independent mechanic? One that you would recommend?
  • Would you be inclined towards buying a used 2014 model with 120k KMs?
Thank you for your help in advance!
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 10:55 AM
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I’ve been very happy with McNally on Toro Rd north of Downsview airport, and would recommend them.

My read of the settlement is that if you buy a vehicle and the field measure is done under your ownership, you will receive the same payment as a current owner would receive upon installation of the field measure.

So yes, I would say it makes sense if the vehicle otherwise checks out
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 06:57 PM
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The payout amount depends on how many owners the vehicle has had, and if you're not the original owner, whether the original and possibly other previous owners have also made a claim.

If a diesel is the right vehicle for you in terms of how much driving and the type of driving you do, and moreover if you're willing to change the oil every 5,000-6,000 km, then yes, they are great vehicles. If you need a grocery getter that will mainly be driven on short commutes and/or around the city, a diesel is not the best choice. If you're going to be driving 50 km each way to work and/or tow a trailer with it, it's the perfect car.
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The payout amount depends on how many owners the vehicle has had, and if you're not the original owner, whether the original and possibly other previous owners have also made a claim.

If a diesel is the right vehicle for you in terms of how much driving and the type of driving you do, and moreover if you're willing to change the oil every 5,000-6,000 km, then yes, they are great vehicles. If you need a grocery getter that will mainly be driven on short commutes and/or around the city, a diesel is not the best choice. If you're going to be driving 50 km each way to work and/or tow a trailer with it, it's the perfect car.
Why Change the oil every 5 to 6k, I do it every 15k and have no issue with it
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Because unless you drive the car for 6+ hours a day, you will end up with so much diesel in your crankcase due to the number of DPF regen cycles that you'll kill the engine in 5 years.
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Because unless you drive the car for 6+ hours a day, you will end up with so much diesel in your crankcase due to the number of DPF regen cycles that you'll kill the engine in 5 years.
Oh loll I keep forgetting there are people didn't do the dpf deleted
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Yeah, there definitely are people around that are too cheap to properly maintain the car so they resort to deleting emission control equipment.
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Yeah, there definitely are people around that are too cheap to properly maintain the car so they resort to deleting emission control equipment.
I properly maintain my vehicle and I did the emissions delete those emissions bs do more harm than benefit to the vehicle, doesn't really matter how you looking at it.
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