benz_addict

What is it and what's it used for? It's located under the rear right seat.

whoover

"The Communication Platform module for the telephone package contains the PSE box supporting the software and associated electronics for the integration of the handset to the vehicle. The CP module also contains the Tele-Aid module supporting the emergency notification system in the vehicle."

It's the 2004 V60s version.

http://phdwebsite.powerpulse.cc/V60i...ual%20v4.6.pdf

All kinds of good Motorola stuff at

http://phdwebsite.powerpulse.cc/V60i%20Documents/

as I'm sure Skylaw knows.

benz_addict

I have the V60i phone laying around somewhere... so all I need is the V60i cradle to connect it and make it work?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/OEM-Mercedes-Moto...2em118Q2el1247

whoover

Better check. I don't think you can use the V60i because it's not E911 compliant, so no carrier will activate it. But a V60s cradle with either a V60s or (more likely) the V60s Bluetooth puck with a modern Bluetooth phone should work. Do you have the VCS stalk?

benz_addict

No I don't have the VCS system in my car but is that really necessary? I know I won't be able to say "Dial blah blah"

I think I'm going to get that cradle and hook it up with a blue tooth module that's probably the best route?

whoover

VCS is cool but not necessary. But I thought it was normally installed at the same time as the PSE. Do you have the cradle holder installed?

Skylaw

Whoover is correct in what he has advised you. With the proper V60S cradle (which has FAKRA connectors needed for your car's console), you can use either a Bluetooth plug-in phone (a V60S or perhaps even a V600, if you want a carrier other than Verizon). Alternatively, your Bluetooth solution for the '04 is the "puck with tail."

eugeneflim

Not to highjack the thread (and sorry for possibly stupid question), but is there an easy way to see if the car is pre-wired for V60? I have 2004 S500, and don't see any plugs in the compartment...

whoover

That probably means it's not wired. It was like $1,000 as a factory option and $1,500 as a dealer install so most cars didn't get it. The clues that it was installed are usually the cradle, or at least signs of wiring in the center console and the VCS stalk.

Skylaw

The '04 S-Class (and the '03 and '04 E-Class) are unique; they all came with the basic equipment for a cell installation - a CP-211 module combining Tele-Aid and cellular capabilities in one box, and the basic harnesses necessary.. What may be lacking in your car is the V60S cradle equipment in the console, and either a V60S plug-in phone or a V60 Bluetooth "Puck with tail." Therefore, in a sense, your car may be considered "prewired" - but its equipment is not complete.

Once you install the console equipment, all you need to do is have your dealer activate your system - it's called "version coding." Then. you're in business for cell. However, you will not have Tele-Aid. The CP-211 has an analog Tele-Aid system, and analog service in no longer available in the U.S. If you want Tele-Aid, you'd have to do a digital system upgrade. It is not necessary to have Tele-Aid in order to activate your cell phone.

Voice control is a nice option, but is not required for the phone system.

See https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...77#post2788377, particularly post #5; and the phone bulletin for your car at http://home.earthlink.net/~phdwebsit..._bulletins.htm for the locations of the connectors in the console.

If you go to a plug-in phone, you will need the linear compensator shown in the bulletin; if you go to Bluetooth, you can omit it.

eugeneflim

Thanks, Skylaw! So, if I go Bluetooth, it looks like I have the following options:
1. Expensive (?):
S-Class vehicle completer kit: B Q 682 0878
1 Voice Control System, control module (MOST): B Q 682 0881
1 Standard install hardware kit: B Q 682 0462
1 Bracket, linear compensator: B Q 682 0427
1 PTT stalk: B Q 682 0820
1 Linear compensator:B Q 682 0829
1 Manual, Voice Control (SJJN 5661A): P-2780-04A

V60 cradle short-cord kit (MOST, FAKRA): B Q 682 0882
1 V60 cradle with short coil-cord: B Q 682 0883
1 V60 holder: B Q 682 0768
1 Battery insert: B Q 682 0832
1 In-vehicle manual (SJJN 4769A): P-2798-03A

2. Less Expensive:
1 Voice Control System, control module (MOST): B Q 682 0881
1 Standard install hardware kit: B Q 682 0462
1 PTT stalk: B Q 682 0820
1 Manual, Voice Control (SJJN 5661A): P-2780-04A

V60 cradle short-cord kit (MOST, FAKRA): B Q 682 0882
1 V60 cradle with short coil-cord: B Q 682 0883
1 V60 holder: B Q 682 0768
1 Battery insert: B Q 682 0832
1 In-vehicle manual (SJJN 4769A): P-2798-03A

Do I need the PTT stalk?

Finally, I would want the system to be programed, and I would need to buy the Bluetooh Puck.

Is this correct?

Thanks a lot in advance,

eugeneflim

Skylaw

Regarding the first option, as I said in my prior post, if you go to a Bluetooth configuration, you do not need the linear compensator (or its bracket) at all (and, the compensators are hard to come by). If you want to use a V60S phone CDMA, Verizon only) or a V600 (GSM, everyone else), you will need the linear compensator and bracket, and you will need the V60 cradle and holder, and the possibly the battery insert.

Installing voice control is not mandatory in any of the options, and if you omit the voce control module, you can also omit the stalk. If you want voice control for the phone, radio, CD and and CDC, you need both. The Voice Control has a Help menu that would let you get by without the manual, as well.

In both the first and second option, you might talk to your dealer about how much of the V60 cradle and holder you need when you use the Puck With Tail; I have never physically seen one installed in the '04, so haven't seen how much is used between the V60 cradle and the V60 phone holder. AWS would be an alternate source of the information. Having that discussion might keep you from buying parts you don't need. You would not need the "battery insert" with the puck.

And yes, definitely you will need version coding - usually around $85, unless the dealer installs for you.

eugeneflim

Oh, I think I am starting to understand this! Since I only need Bluetooth, and don't care about voice control, it appears all I need is this:
1 Voice Control System, control module (MOST): B Q 682 0881
1 MERCEDES-BENZ V60 BLUETOOTH CRADLE ADAPTER: B6 787 5855

The only question remains is whether I need the cradle/insert thingie. I guess, will talk to AWS and see what they say...

Thanks!

eugeneflim

And, I've done even more research, and it looks like I only need the puck! This is because I don't need the voice control (hopefully, I am correct here). Just get it connected inside the cener console, and activate via Star computer.

Skylaw

Indeed, that may be all you need. I am not certain whether the Puck With Tail that was designed for your car needs any part of the cradle (either the cradle, the phone holder, or the battery insert). That's the question you must ask.

And, you're right - the cars with the CP-211 electronics need only to connect the equipment in the console, and have the system activated through version coding (with STAR).

eugeneflim

OK, I am going to do it in a couple of weeks, and I am going to give you the update, so maybe you can update your sticky

Skylaw

Thanks - that's exactly what I will do. I do know that folks have done this activation, but I do not have any feedback on the cradle/puck questions. Will look forward to yours.

tusabes

Will the puck work on a 2000 Sclass? Whats the cheapest way to integrate a phone into a 2000 Sclass?

Skylaw

Tusabes, read the How-To Guide sticky to determine what you need for fully integrated Bluetooth in a '00 S-Class. Yes, the V60 puck will work (it's your only MB option) - but you may have other things to do.

Cheapest might be use of a 3rd party kit that does not integrate with COMAND and garbage up the appearance of your car. I haven't researched them, and can make no recommendations. Zam2000 recently did a 3rd party add-on that didn't look too bad, and it integrates - see https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...ee-system.html. His car seems to be an '03, which would use a D2B fiber optics bus as yours does.

Parrot Systems offers a range of add-ons, some of which offer no phone book download - they just let you make calls using Bluetooth. Other Parrot systems offer more. Google them.