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Old 02-05-2008, 07:40 PM
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It will be fun and would love to have some races. I am sure vadim and vrus will be happy as well no matter what car wins.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Hope you have deep pockets buddy. You have alot of hope in something that hasnt been proven yet. Engine rebuild and turbos. Even then you will have trouble unless you aren't goign to be daily driving your car.
"Even then you will have trouble unless you aren't going to be daily driving your car?"
"Alot of hope in something that hasnt been proven yet?"

How DARE You Insult VRP Like That!!

Both Car Have Not Been Proven Yet, but It's OK That I'm In The Dark. I Have A Flashlight In My Pocket!
Oh, and My Pockets Extend To My Socks!

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I wasnt insulting VRP, just making some points.
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I wasnt insulting VRP, just making some points.
I Know Bro, Just Joking!
Havoc Talks A Lot Of Crap... But Your Points Are Pointless!
No, But Seriously, I'm Going After The V12 TT VR1000! With Victor's Help, Of Course!

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not fair either way his product wins. It will be a good day and other then his ic upgrade I am done unless they find a way to make that tranny hold more. If I get the same 40whp that car saw I will be pushing 620-625whp and I am sure that is max for that tranny. We dont even know what the torque increase was? So is that about 760hp with a 18% dt loss? That is a vr760 kit then.
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I agree, the modded V12TT is no joke!
And A 5.7 V8 Kompressor with Twin Turbos IS A Joke?
Old 02-05-2008, 08:16 PM
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not fair either way his product wins.
True Dat! VRP Wins All The Way!
Hey, I'm Just a "V8" Guy Through and Through! My Little V8 Is Going To Reak HAVOC!
Old 02-05-2008, 08:19 PM
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And A 5.7 V8 Kompressor with Twin Turbos IS A Joke?
Until I see one up and running... yes

Its like a unicorn, only this has a possibility of happening. I will be right behind you in line if it happens.
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Until I see one up and running... yes

Its like a unicorn, only this has a possibility of happening. I will be right behind you in line if it happens.
Well Dude, You Better Jump On My Back Now Because I'm Clearing The Way!

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Old 02-05-2008, 08:39 PM
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these things are beasts, nothing else to say, lol. great work guys! I leave this thread alone for a few days, and this is what happens, lol.
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Originally Posted by BiTurboAmg
If I get the same 40whp that car saw I will be pushing 620-625whp and I am sure that is max for that tranny. We dont even know what the torque increase was? So is that about 760hp with a 18% dt loss? That is a vr760 kit then.
Well, If 620-625whp is What You Expect To Have After This VRP Upgrade, It's Going To Be A Close Race Between Us and That's Just With My "Havoc Stage 1 5.7 VR750 Kit". You Will Defiantly Have To Up Your Modds To Surpass The "Havoc Stages 2 and 3"!

See What You Started Victor! You Got The V12 TT Guys All Worried!!

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Hey Havoc

Hey Havoc.... This V12QT guy isn't worried!!!

We've got some Tranny mods in the works, so I'm not too concerned about it. A LITTLE concerned, but not too concerned.

Just don't run slicks, and have some big turbos in the back that take a while to spool up, and beef up the tranny, change the cam profile to boost the hp while taming the torque, and things ought to be OK.

We'll see..
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Hey New2this

Originally Posted by New2this
Hey Havoc.... This V12QT guy isn't worried!!!

We've got some Tranny mods in the works, so I'm not too concerned about it. A LITTLE concerned, but not too concerned.

Just don't run slicks, and have some big turbos in the back that take a while to spool up, and beef up the tranny, change the cam profile to boost the hp while taming the torque, and things ought to be OK.

We'll see..
Sounds Good!
Either Way, We'll Have Two Of The Baddest VRP SLs Around!
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Hope you have deep pockets buddy. You have alot of hope in something that hasnt been proven yet. Engine rebuild and turbos. Even then you will have trouble unless you aren't goign to be daily driving your car.
+1

"Brave HEART"...LOL...We should be happy...Cause his car will be used and his money will be spent for R&D...then we should get a proven package...on well some of US..those who will still have E55s by that time or will want to spend thart much money on old model...

BY the time you will be making or if your are going to be making "throuble free" 1000HP on your SL55... BiTurboAMG probably will move to other car already... new SL is coming out soon...

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Originally Posted by Havoc
And A 5.7 V8 Kompressor with Twin Turbos IS A Joke?

NO...Its a dream...but some dreams come TRUE...
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Originally Posted by New2this
Hey Havoc.... This V12QT guy isn't worried!!!

We've got some Tranny mods in the works, so I'm not too concerned about it. A LITTLE concerned, but not too concerned.

Just don't run slicks, and have some big turbos in the back that take a while to spool up, and beef up the tranny, change the cam profile to boost the hp while taming the torque, and things ought to be OK.

We'll see..
Very good point...How do you tame the torque...this is key.
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TwinCharging is Not a Dream, Myth, or Joke and IT Has Been CREATED and PROVEN on other engines Already.

We Just Need To Let VRP Do Their Thing....Which They Already Are!

But I Do Agree, The "VRP V12 QT" Will Be OUTRAGEOUS and Almost Impossible To Beat!

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Originally Posted by Havoc
TwinCharging is Not a Dream, Myth, or Joke and IT Has Been CREATED and PROVEN on other engines Already.

We Just Need To Let VRP Do Their Thing....Which They Already Are!
Yes it has been done before but not on a benz. There isnt even a aftermarket turbo kit for any newer benzes. Its because tuning and fueling is pretty much nonexistant. I could have all the hardware fabbed up in no time, thats not the problem
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Lets say ot wont EASY on BENZ...and wont be perfectly from the start...a lot learning and R&D up front...

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Any updates Vadim/Vrus? Price, torque, when these kits will be ready to ship?
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How are you guys gonna work these quad turbos? Is the point to run smaller turbos with the same boost as two monster ones? That will create a lot of heat. I am very excited to see how this will work.
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Wow, looks like we got a little rivalry going on here

The whole point in an AMG is ridiculous power in a completely drivable and luxurious package. When the car gets to the level you can't drive it anymore, it kind of becomes pointless. Havoc, if your only goal is street domination, you should go with a twin turbo Viper! 2,000hp and sub 8 second 1/4 miles .

I think the SL65 with turbo swap (or quad turbos ) should take a bored and turbo'ed SL55. It just seems to make more sense.

Is there going to be a tranny swap done? Or just re-strengthened?
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Originally Posted by BiTurboAmg
Any updates Vadim/Vrus? Price, torque, when these kits will be ready to ship?
+1000000000000
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Havoc, if your only goal is street domination, you should go with a twin turbo Viper! 2,000hp and sub 8 second 1/4 miles .
Or a twin-turbo Ford GT



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