Juice1979

I put this intake together from some pieces I had laying around and what to get some info from those who have dyno/track tested or even runs a similar setup. I know many are concerned this intake will take in hotter air from the engine bay but once the car is moving I think the iat's will be close to stock as there will be plenty of air coming thru the grill area. I also know that this intake will definitely dyno higher than stock as most dyno their cars with the hood open.

I have alot of experiences with american v8's both N/A and FI as im sure others on here do. In almost all cases intake setups like these outperform stock setups on both the dyno and track. Im curious as to why it would be different on this car?

I have been driving around with it on my car for a couple of days and cannot notice a performance difference from stock. Could just be that the butt dyno isnt calibrated sensitively enough. With as much power as these cars make a gain of 10whp would be hard pressed to feel. The only noticable difference is the much more pronounced supercharger whine.

Any input from tuners would be much appreciated as well..Thanks

...yes the stock filters are removed...

AZIPOD

With 500+ HP, any gains from air filters you will need be able to tell or accurate tell with a butt dyno. I think the only real way is to do a pre/post test-run on a dyno.

How does it sound? Is there a deep sound when the engine is under load? If there's a down side to this I would have to say its the heat underneath the hood.

jturkel

i dont think you will see larger numbers on the dyno. it seems more of a ram style intake or cold air intake. if you could some how do a dyno when you were actually moving, and compare before and after install, you might see something. i dont think a fan or two can replicate the volume of air that can fly into the engine bay at high speeds so you might not be able to see results you like on a dyno.

acb

I could look at your sig all day jurkel

jturkel

lol.... i do. thats probably why i never got off mbworld. i'm on here all frickin day haha.

acb

it would be one disadvatange of flat-badging your car - licking that just wouldnt have the same effect

Wryfox

Here's why no gains. You've traded a flat filter for round but basically same filter area. no net advantage. You've traded colder front grille air for hot engine air, particularly air that has already passed your radiators, let alone radiant heat from engine. The air slipping in through various openings in front of car won't make up for that.The only thing you have really done is shorten the air path by maybe 8 inches in an intake path that is something like 6 ft long before it gets to the cylinder. BUT, it does look cooler!

Juice1979

I understand why everyone thinks this may or may not be benficial, but i was hoping there would have been someone on here with real data to share...hopefully some of the tuners can chime in here

iconoclast

what data specifically are you looking for? noone is going to dyno before/after open element filter install... but more importantly the amount of hot air you would be sucking in with those filters is unreal. theres a reason why so many well paid engineers designed what they did.

Juice1979

Do you really think that on a vehicle in motion the iat's are that much higher with my current filter location (6 inch difference) than with the stock setup. I am pretty sure that once the vehicle is moving that the air passing thru the front grill etc will be the same temp as stock. I know there was a thread recently posted by "sneakyneon" (i beleive) where he tested IAT temps with various different setups. If i remember correctly IAT's seemed unaffected with stock intake scoops removed.

itsmeek

Because you're taking hot air from the engine bay rather then cold air from outside.

TopEndS62

also that chrome piping will raise air temperature....

chiromikey

any reason why you can't dyno and simply report your own findings?

blackbenzz

Taking it to the track and swapping setups between runs would be your best indicator of whether it works well or not

lowprofile

^ I agree. Track results are the way to go if you want real world answers.

Hammer Down

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...g-results.html

Is this what you are looking for?

bassn_07

I also agree. If you dyno your car with this setup could you please do both with the hood open and shut. With this type of system you would definitely benefit from the hood being open but you wouldn't see these same type of condition during normal driving. The intake would have endless amounts of ambient temperature air with no engine heat. Just a thought for testing.

chiromikey

you know I totally agree but my point is why go through the labor of doing the mod then get lazy and ask others for info regarding it's benefits...finish the project properly by obtaining and sharing your own objective data!

Juice1979

Of course I could but I was hoping that someone would have already tried this and had some results they could share

Autoscope

Someone said it....

Colder CFM is better than MORE CFM........

Especially on the SC cars....

Does it heat soak real fast? I bet it growls more....

Yacht Master

Doctor says you have K&Nitis.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ntake-55s.html

And a little more refined effort here,

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-benefits.html

Juice1979

I plan on taking it to the track and swapping to the stock setup for sameday comparisons.

No noticeable heat soak, however, I dont drive that much and the few days that it has been installed have not been terribly hot.

Definitely growls alot more than stock!

Thericker

Try this, my post from Mushroom Filter thread...

Link to kit I used, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...Q5fAccessories NOTE: toss out the metal pipes! these filters flow so much more cold air vs K&N, just holding them in your hand shoot compressed air thru each type w/other hand feeling air exiting other side of filters dif is HUGE! Also after driving for few minutes the K&N metal weave type heat-up like crazy vs Foam Only Cones after driving 2 hrs in traffic they're cool to touch, lastly I wanted to see if my new set-up was letting fine dust inside airboxes? after 3 wks use I opened up both sides they were sparkling clean, vs stock OEM set-up there would be heavy sand/little rocks on the bottom of boxes under OEM filters.

These Foam Cone filters STOP any of those foreign contaminants from ever entering airboxes. I checked my stock OEM set-up regularly, the rock/sand build up would be their in few wks, just imagine how clogged up & further air restricted this makes OEM set-up?

chiromikey

think about what you're saying. the reason you used to find that debris in the bottom of your airbox is because the filters were doing their job!!!!! do you really think that new filer is that good or is it likely that now instead of staying trapped in the airbox the dust and debris is going straight into the motor?

blackbenzz

Word, I know.