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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 05:02 PM
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^^^I tried to change my interior trim several weeks ago (from carbon fiber to natural black ash) and was denied as build was locked. Don't know why they are locking so prematurely. Highly unusual. My original order was submitted to MB on 9/8/22.
Must be due to the continuing supply chain issues.
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 10:07 PM
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This was the reason why I posted: it’s to ask about the LSD situation. Is there a mechanical LSD available or are they all open/e-diff or something else completely different.

This is where it becomes a big concern to me if it’s not available to spec out with an LSD.

I realize I’m probably sounding oblivious to the w213

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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 10:22 PM
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All W213 E63S have electronic LSD. Non-S E63 is mechanical

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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 11:16 PM
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All W213 E63S have electronic LSD. Non-S E63 is mechanical
I’ll have to look for some literature on this. It sounds like a haldex operated system.
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Old Nov 15, 2022 | 09:42 AM
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Has anyone been able to order the 5 twin spokes? That's one of the options my dealer changed to another wheel and I really want the twin, scared it will get stuck at cross spoke.
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Old Nov 15, 2022 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by go team
Very happy to see this thread! I’ve got an allocation for a 2023 final edition WAGON not sedan!

Supposedly one of 12 final editions and no set number on how many are sedans and how many are wagons. Pricing is 170,000 Canadian. Hard to do competitive on these as it seems people will pay what they are listed for. I’m shocked to see Vancouver has so many allocations for a wagon.

From previous comments the tax on over 100k is insane. But in Alberta the lack of PST helps.
since there is no e63 wagon showing on Canada or US configurator I was about to put a deposit down on a RS6 until I saw this thread. Audi Richmond said it might be here August 23 if I’m lucky which is painful.

e63 wagon was my first choice so I will be calling Mercedes Vancouver and Richmond to see if there are allocations still and what is the eta on those wagons.


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Old Nov 15, 2022 | 10:34 PM
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Alright now I think I want brown paint. But the beige is too light, the brown on brown will be too much brown, and I’m unsure of black.

Why is there no tan?

I’m going in to the dealer Thursday to try and finalize things.

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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 09:23 AM
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I'm just spewing thoughts now LOL. No brown paint available
I really like this interior below

So my first choice for paint is now High Tech Silver Metallic however I think the Selenite Gray Metallica would look better with Nut Brown. And if I go that route, better to get darker wheels too. Argh. This changes everything, I'm losing sleep over it. LOL.

I'm googling for the lighter High Tech Silver Metallic w/nut brown and wood to see what it looks like... anyone seen anyone do the lighter silver with nut brown?


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^^^That interior is gorgeous. Consider Graphite. It's a superb color and has a lot of brown in it. Makes for a killer combination with the brown interior. Mine was graphite/brown. (Oddly enough I didn't like it at the time because it looked so brown under certain lighting conditions. Wasn't expecting this at the time. In retrospect, it was a great color and would be my first choice today.) Silver will work but I'd lean more to black interior with a classic German Silver. Another thought, be careful with that light brown interior trim. There's a lot of trim and a lot of brown. The nut brown reads much lighter in the sun and may be too close to the light brown trim. My two cents... too much brown.








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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 11:32 AM
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Thank you! That lighter sliver is rocking the brown OK better then I thought it would. I think I've settled on the "too much brown" I love it in pics. It's like I'm inside a cigar lounge. Might fall asleep with stop/start turning off at a light getting a heated massage. Heh.

My dealer has made me nervous. Kept saying "just a place holder" so I wasn't really too worried they messed up some options. So then I emailed him the order guide posted here and he emailed back "You better come in and cross check with our ordering team" wait, what?! So I'm there tomorrow and will try to "change" my interior to the nut brown with wood, and the color MAYBE to a darker silver/gray. I might just leave it light, but am leaning towards this look now:





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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 12:31 PM
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The 23 E63s wagon with a V8 is definitely the final go.

I was just speaking to my dealer here in Canada (MB Thornhill) and they have received a directive/information bulletin from MB Canada (early November) that there will be no W214 E63s wagon or sedan. The E53 will be the top dog of the new gen E class. There is no mentioning of whether a W214 E53 wagon will be coming to Canada.

Lastly, MB Thornhill has confirmed they have gotten 4 allocations and none have been taken as of today (11/16/22) for the configurable E63s wagon. Projected delivery is mid summer 2023.

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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Thank you! That lighter sliver is rocking the brown OK better then I thought it would. I think I've settled on the "too much brown" I love it in pics. It's like I'm inside a cigar lounge. Might fall asleep with stop/start turning off at a light getting a heated massage. Heh.

My dealer has made me nervous. Kept saying "just a place holder" so I wasn't really too worried they messed up some options. So then I emailed him the order guide posted here and he emailed back "You better come in and cross check with our ordering team" wait, what?! So I'm there tomorrow and will try to "change" my interior to the nut brown with wood, and the color MAYBE to a darker silver/gray. I might just leave it light, but am leaning towards this look now:



Got Selenite Grey with Nut Brown on my 2021 Badge Delete AMG Wagon.


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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
…there will be no W214 E63s wagon or sedan. The E53 will be the top dog of the new gen E class.
No doubt…there will not be a W214 E63…hence the W213 E63 ‘Final Edition’. However, that does not necessarily mean the E53 will be “top dog”…I expect somebody made an incorrect assumption…as I’ve said before, it would make no sense, since we know the C63 is coming.
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
No doubt…there will not be a W214 E63…hence the W213 E63 ‘Final Edition’. However, that does not necessarily mean the E53 will be “top dog”…I expect somebody made an incorrect assumption…as I’ve said before, it would make no sense, since we know the C63 is coming.
If there is a badge "E63S" for W214 and suppose they will use the same setup as the new gen C63S, the latter's weight ballooned by 700 lbs (if I recalled correctly), can you imagine the weight of this new gen E63S ?? assuming they are using same/similar powertrain setup ... that will balloon to like 5300+ lbs, that's GLE or even close to GLS territory per se. It may have the monster power but the weight simply kills the handling.
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^ Not saying I’d be interested in a hybridized E73 or whatever they call it…would depend on cylinder count…could be 4, 6, or 8…but I think it’s naive to think it won’t be happening.

Edit: FWIW, the ‘AMG Specialist’ I spoke with at a big So Cal earlier this week said it will be the hybrid V8 based on recent communication with Germany. Not that I believe anything a salesman tells me.

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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
^^^That interior is gorgeous. Consider Graphite. It's a superb color and has a lot of brown in it. Makes for a killer combination with the brown interior. Mine was graphite/brown. (Oddly enough I didn't like it at the time because it looked so brown under certain lighting conditions. Wasn't expecting this at the time. In retrospect, it was a great color and would be my first choice today.) Silver will work but I'd lean more to black interior with a classic German Silver. Another thought, be careful with that light brown interior trim. There's a lot of trim and a lot of brown. The nut brown reads much lighter in the sun and may be too close to the light brown trim. My two cents... too much brown.







At the risk of disagreeing with you, the Graphite Grey doesn't have brown undertones. That said, I thought that it did under certain lighting conditions, but then found out that my cataracts were responsible for the coloration. Once I had them removed and adressed with surgery, the color lost the brown tone. I also did not like the brown interior and went with Graphite with silver stitching.

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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
^ Not saying I’d be interested in a hybridized E73 or whatever they call it…would depend on cylinder count…could be 4, 6, or 8…but I think it’s naive to think it won’t be happening.

Edit: FWIW, the ‘AMG Specialist’ I spoke with at a big So Cal earlier this week said it will be the hybrid V8 based on recent communication with Germany. Not that I believe anything a salesman tells me.
BMW rumored to have a M5 Touring with V8 PHEV coming 2024...
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Originally Posted by HBerman
At the risk of disagreeing with you, the Graphite Grey doesn't have brown undertones. That said, I thought that it did under certain lighting conditions, but then found out that my cataracts were responsible for the coloration. Once I had them removed and adressed with surgery, the color lost the brown tone.
Oh it most definitely has gold/brown undertones. I love a nice dark grey, but the warmth of Graphite in the sun turned me right off of it...and I'm a few decades away from cataracts.

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BMW rumored to have a M5 Touring with V8 PHEV coming 2024...
Alas, like the M3 Touring, certainly not for us in the US. But, yes, there will be a V8 M5 coming in the next generation, which is why there has to be something significantly more than an E53 from AMG, even if it's not called E63.
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I loved the interior in my old wagon so I ordered the same thing this time around. This shot is full-sun and you can see just how light the brown can look.
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Well I gave salesman a heads up to show me cars with the nut brown today.
Still struggling with paint color.
My w212 was so easy to "spec". I was only shopping CPO and I missed two by hours so the 3rd one I didn't care what the colors were I just said "I'LL TAKE IT" and got used to it.
This color decision making is very enlightening to me that I have problems.
I'm concerned that in a month or year I'll hate it. "That's sooooooooooo 2023"
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Well I gave salesman a heads up to show me cars with the nut brown today.
Still struggling with paint color.
My w212 was so easy to "spec". I was only shopping CPO and I missed two by hours so the 3rd one I didn't care what the colors were I just said "I'LL TAKE IT" and got used to it.
This color decision making is very enlightening to me that I have problems.
I'm concerned that in a month or year I'll hate it. "That's sooooooooooo 2023"
Exterior color decision is always difficult. I chose Selenite Grey for my climate and Treks from NM to East Coast when not garaged. You can also alter your color later with vinyl or PPF.

I remember those harsh winters off Lake Ontario at the University of Rochester. June to early September were the only months for great weather and Euphoria until the overcast sky blues set in. Molsons made me happy...
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Here's graphite under very bright shop lights

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Originally Posted by bobblehead
The 23 E63s wagon with a V8 is definitely the final go.

I was just speaking to my dealer here in Canada (MB Thornhill) and they have received a directive/information bulletin from MB Canada (early November) that there will be no W214 E63s wagon or sedan. The E53 will be the top dog of the new gen E class. There is no mentioning of whether a W214 E53 wagon will be coming to Canada.

Lastly, MB Thornhill has confirmed they have gotten 4 allocations and none have been taken as of today (11/16/22) for the configurable E63s wagon. Projected delivery is mid summer 2023.
This is what I’ve heard as well. Wait and see. All I know is that I’m hanging onto my W213. Feel like its going to end up being a very special vehicle, more then it already is.
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Here’s some different interior shots to help

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I went to the dealer yesterday and sat in a brown interior car. It is very nice but it's not for me _on this car_. Maybe on an S class or G or Maybach, Bentley, Rolls etc. etc. but not on my AMG Wagon. I decided I'd be happiest keeping it light, crisp and sporty. So with the help of the German Configurator playing with the options and 360 view my final specs and colors are chosen! I know I've settled on the right choice as I'm suddenly very excited. I actually lost sleep last night. Like a kid on Christmas. THAT's how it's supposed to feel! I'm finally genuinely stoked about this order.


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