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2.39%
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9.57%
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28.71%
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BRAKE Pad, Rotors, & Calipers Discussion Thread (OEM, aftermarket, etc...)

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Old 10-26-2008, 01:52 AM
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yes...what you are missing is that i am agreeing with you on the fact that the 2 pistons on the c230 are indeed great...however however slight it may be the more pistons equals better braking and shorter stopping distance however slight the difference may be...its simple statics my friend...

and on that note, the faster you can lock up the wheels (to then put the stopping power to the tires) the faster you will stop...and the more friction will cause faster locking up (even though our tires will not truely lock up)...in fact what goes to prove your point even more is the fact that we have something called an ABS system on most cars today because it is relatively easy to lock a cars wheels up when hard braking...so unless you have altered that function simply locking up the tires will not play a "huge" role in all of this...

nonetheless i am agreeing with you whether or not anything i just said made any sense, haha...
No, you're missing the point entirely. All else being equal, all of these braking system will result in equal stopping distances. Yes ABS will kick in, that is the equivalent to tire lockup. The point at which the tires cannot provide any more traction to the brakes. Since all of these brakes can almost instantaneously cause tire lockup (in which case ABS will take over) stopping distance will not be affected by the 2, 4 or 6 piston calipers.
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Originally Posted by e1000
No, you're missing the point entirely. All else being equal, all of these braking system will result in equal stopping distances. Yes ABS will kick in, that is the equivalent to tire lockup. The point at which the tires cannot provide any more traction to the brakes. Since all of these brakes can almost instantaneously cause tire lockup (in which case ABS will take over) stopping distance will not be affected by the 2, 4 or 6 piston calipers.
+1. E is spot on here. Read this: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...lections.shtml
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05 c230 kompressor
i have an 05 c230 sport. it has the 2 piston caliper. are u saying some 05's had 4 piston calipers?
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whats the difference between an 04.5 c230 and a 05 c230?. i dont even know what year my car is anymore. thats explains why when i purcahse a set of brake pads, shops sometimes give me the wrong pads. i had to give em my vin number to be exact.
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are stock brake pads ceramic or semi-metalic?
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ours are not ceramic...and i know what you mean, i also have an '05 c230 ss but if yours is '05 its '05...its the '04's that changed...some got the facelift early...at least im pretty sure thats what it is
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btw are those the silver with polished lip versions of your wheels?
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btw are those the silver with polished lip versions of your wheels?
machine face and lip...
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yes 19's and they are machine finished. 8.5F and 9.5R et35. brabus reps.
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i like them...whered you get them from?
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Originally Posted by maverik259
ours are not ceramic...and i know what you mean, i also have an '05 c230 ss but if yours is '05 its '05...its the '04's that changed...some got the facelift early...at least im pretty sure thats what it is
correct, some very early 05's still had the 04.5's 4-piston calipers.
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Originally Posted by maverik259
yes...what you are missing is that i am agreeing with you on the fact that the 2 pistons on the c230 are indeed great...however however slight it may be the more pistons equals better braking and shorter stopping distance however slight the difference may be...its simple statics my friend...

and on that note, the faster you can lock up the wheels (to then put the stopping power to the tires) the faster you will stop...and the more friction will cause faster locking up (even though our tires will not truely lock up)...in fact what goes to prove your point even more is the fact that we have something called an ABS system on most cars today because it is relatively easy to lock a cars wheels up when hard braking...so unless you have altered that function simply locking up the tires will not play a "huge" role in all of this...

nonetheless i am agreeing with you whether or not anything i just said made any sense, haha...

Oh dear.....

I had points to add, I'm not going to. I'm outta this one.

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haha yes thats good cuz im done with it anyway...i dont really care nonetheless im gonna upgrade them just because i like the "look" of bigger brakes and rotors...i hate the look of ugly **** behind the wheels of big open wheels...i dont foresee me doing any tracking in which my braking is really going to matter all that much haha...but ya does anyone know how the 2 and 4 piston setups look different? im trying to figure out if i got the 2 or 4 piston...cuz if they're 4 im not gonna upgrade since thats pretty mucha ll i was gonna go for is a 4 piston amg set up...
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Originally Posted by maverik259
haha yes thats good cuz im done with it anyway...i dont really care nonetheless im gonna upgrade them just because i like the "look" of bigger brakes and rotors...i hate the look of ugly **** behind the wheels of big open wheels...i dont foresee me doing any tracking in which my braking is really going to matter all that much haha...but ya does anyone know how the 2 and 4 piston setups look different? im trying to figure out if i got the 2 or 4 piston...cuz if they're 4 im not gonna upgrade since thats pretty mucha ll i was gonna go for is a 4 piston amg set up...
did you even read the thread?? I'm not trying to be mean here, but this thread has pictures, part numbers, and the full explanation of what years got what brakes. Lol.
Old 10-27-2008, 03:15 AM
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did you even read the thread?? I'm not trying to be mean here, but this thread has pictures, part numbers, and the full explanation of what years got what brakes. Lol.
That is exactly it. You all are debating brake compounds, brake fluid, and tire friction with someone who just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

I opt out!

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lol of course i read this thread i started posting on it many posts ago...but no there arent any pics of the '05 front brakes and i dont have part numbers written on the outside of my brakes anywhere?! so how would you expect me to go about beign sure...i figured the best people to ask would be you guys i've only had my car myself for about 3 months so im still gettin to know her...

However idt you should get your panties in a wad over this i mean its really not a big deal at all...

My confusion (and im not the only one) is determining which model i have...

Basically i've seen the c32 4 piston brakes and they look identical to mine just mine say mercedes benz and not amg...so thats why i'm wondering thats all...i understand the thread says 2 piston but it also says early models had some 4 pistons installed so i just dont know which one i have and i cant seem to find a picture online that can show me clearly the difference (in looks) b/n a 2 and 4 piston MB caliper...

Thats all man but im glad you dont mean any offense cuz theres no need to be ***** to one another on these threads i mean they're for our benefit and if you didnt want to share your knowledge then you wouldnt be posting after all so i know you mean well...
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ok so i just went back and looked more closely at the painted ones and looked at a picture of my wheels and i now can see that i do indeed have the 2 piston calipers...so i conceed the point on that matter, thankyou for helping out e1000
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what's the latest and greatest? anyone have any new opinions of the ebc redstuff? they apparently changed them a little while back. just curious if anyone has tried out the new versions. most of the reviews i found were most likely from the older models. i am stuck between those and akebono. i know akebono gets good reviews- but i have been a fan of ebc starting with my dirtbike and atv racing days and continue to use them on my motorcycle. just trying to give them a fair shake. i am going to use them with the stock drilled front disks and a new set of the ebc rear disks.
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Originally Posted by bumpnzx3
what's the latest and greatest? anyone have any new opinions of the ebc redstuff? they apparently changed them a little while back. just curious if anyone has tried out the new versions. most of the reviews i found were most likely from the older models. i am stuck between those and akebono. i know akebono gets good reviews- but i have been a fan of ebc starting with my dirtbike and atv racing days and continue to use them on my motorcycle. just trying to give them a fair shake. i am going to use them with the stock drilled front disks and a new set of the ebc rear disks.
Us 05-up guys don't have much selection for pads. The Akebono's aren't available for our cars yet. I have a set of Carbotech Bobcats in my garage waiting to go on the car. I can't comment on there performance on the Benz yet, but have used that same compound on a few other cars with great results.

Are you getting the EBC rear drilled rotors?
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ebc's it is then. i was thinking the akebono were available, but the porterfields were not. ahh well- doesn't matter i guess.

i am going to get a set of the ebc dimpled disks- they aren't actually drilled. i am also going to pick up a set of stainless brake lines.


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