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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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What is the pinout for the microphone in NTG5.
It is not the same as in NTG4.
Xentry show - microphone problem - circut is open
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Old Mar 4, 2020 | 09:20 AM
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OK.
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Microphone pins is 1,2,3 and 9.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilsonkpham
Great Jobs Chris

this is NTG5s1 on my w204 😍

















can you please pm me all the details like parts needed and coding basically everything regarding this retrofit i have a 2012 W204 and would like to so the same. Thanks in advance.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 06:07 AM
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W218 4.5 to 5.1

Good day, i want to do the retrofit, from 4.5 to 5.1
I would like to ask what things i need to do
Do i need to change the wire for camera? as i can see i could add the new cable (4 pins) Last photo, and just repine the camera connector? Photo 5/6 white connector in my boot lid i have the black connector.
HK AMP? I have HK in my car already same amp as the donor car.
Tv tuner, i have the new one and i have the old one should i change it?
Video Cable blue one. i have it
Programing (have a friend to do this)
Any other things i need to do? Cables pins?













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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 05:43 PM
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Thanks. But for that price I’ll try something else.
I know late response but just gor the sake of similar questions, I took mine to MB dealer and get it there. They were very friendly and helpful.
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by labik
I am looking for a video cable scheme - two blue connector
I have connectors.
Diagram please.

hi Labik
what is the part number for the cable ypu posted the picture for?
Thanks
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by labik
Maybe someone will write the part number of the joystick with two buttons from the manual and part nr joystick with four buttons from automatic gear ?
A2129009828
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 05:26 PM
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Comand NTG5s1 retrofit from NTG4.5 Audio 20 W166

Hi dear Michael,
i just bought Comand NTG 5s1 for my ML 350 cdi Bluetec w166 , end 2012 wich is equipped with NTG4.5 Audio 20.
The only thing what I want to know is repinning the Quadlock; what I have to change exactly? How many pin I to change and which? Could you please help me with pictures or photos of the quadlock and wiring?
Thank you very much!
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Eric


QUOTE=michael130509;7871640]I read the wiring diagrams for ntg4.5 and ntg5s1 and make the changes.
Do you have access to the wis? You can print the wiring diagrams for both systems and see the differences there.
You have to change the can bus, telematics bus, the microphone cables and to wire new cables 4 to obd and 3 cables for usb.[/QUOTE]

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Old Oct 19, 2020 | 12:58 PM
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Maybe anybody know how to repin the Video cable from ntg 4.5 to NTG 5.1? I have black connector in old screen, and blue in the new one, or could take a photo? this would help also, my old one has 3 cables and i saw some photos that similar screen whit blue connector has 4 cables one more black, i think its ground, comes from they new joystick for function screen on /off, maybe could anyone explain more? or make a photo of blue connector from back (where the cables comes)


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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 02:33 PM
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Im having same problem please help! And need a code of that button


Need to fix this? Please help

Could anybody give me the code of this button?



Got this thing working at last some of the plastics trims where missing so took some time to get them.

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Old Nov 23, 2020 | 11:42 PM
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Hi everyone! This thread has been one I have been following for awhile ever since I got my 2015 E350 Wagon. I'm relatively new still so forgive me if some of these questions have been answered elsewhere but I have done quite a bit of searching and so far I haven't found a straight answer.

Has anyone has successfully completed this retrofit that has the 360 Camera? Does the control module and all four cameras need to be replaced? I understand the rear camera needs replaced but I have not seen any information regarding the others or the module that controls it?
I would assume since the P/N's are different between 2015 and 2016 that they might need to change but I just want to confirm.

I also would like to know if anyone who has completed this retrofit has successfully enabled services on their car to unlock via the Mercedes Me app or the in car hotspot?
My understanding is VeDoc needs to be accessed and the data card for my vehicle would need to be modified by someone who has access to this database. Is this correct and does anyone have any anecdotal evidence of this working?

Any help would be appreciated!
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 11:13 AM
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Hi, u have 2015 E350 Wagon thaht means u have rear camera HD (whit whit socket for cable) IF yeas than you don't need to replaced
video control module: this is hard to answer, depends on what module is at the moment, some of the modules where used the same for 360 cameras and non 360 system.
u will need 2 mirrors+ Wiring loom from the doors (for facra) (whit 360) or drill holes install cameras and all other this will be nightmare to do it
wiring harness for Door to Video module
Wiring harness Front camera + Front camera
And some programing, Sam unit Camera module + Rear camera coding if u will change the video module (it takes time Lots of it )



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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 12:15 PM
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I wasn't quite clear in the last post. My car has 360 camera already. What I am trying to figure out is do these cameras need to be replaced with the cameras and module from a 2016 model or are the 2015 cameras and control module compatible?
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 01:22 PM
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You want to fit NTG 5 2016 unit in 2015 E350?
If yes take a picture front of your NTG head unit and rear view drive (back up camera on screen)
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 10:40 PM
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Yes that is what I am trying to do.

Here are the photos you asked for, and some you didn't in case this helps.

Rear Cam


Front Grill Cam


Mirror Cam


Headunit


360 Camera Screen


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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 09:25 AM
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OK so you have NTG 4.7 as i can see, so you will need to change the rear view camera(u have analog) new one will be HD ,but rest of the cameras should work fine.
And i think video module wont be necessary to change just some programing will be needed for NTG
hope this will help
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 04:41 AM
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I have a 2015 CLS250 (built April 2015).I am trying to anyhow make it possible to activate Apple CarPlay.My COMAND system seems not to be prepared for that.I have 2 regular USB ports in the arm rest.Non of them has the screen mirroring symbol.Would it help to install the part # 246-820-38-00 OEM smart phone integration kit?Can I even connect that to my existing COMAND system?What I would also like to know, what's the COMAND version I have (NTG 5.x), and which version supports the Apple CarPlay (COMAND NTG 5.?)
Can someone help me clarify please
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerCls
I have a 2015 CLS250 (built April 2015).I am trying to anyhow make it possible to activate Apple CarPlay.My COMAND system seems not to be prepared for that.I have 2 regular USB ports in the arm rest.Non of them has the screen mirroring symbol.Would it help to install the part # 246-820-38-00 OEM smart phone integration kit?Can I even connect that to my existing COMAND system?What I would also like to know, what's the COMAND version I have (NTG 5.x), and which version supports the Apple CarPlay (COMAND NTG 5.?)
Can someone help me clarify please
does the head unit look like the one pictured above, or this one?



the one I'm picturing is the Hu5S1 (note the chrome bands between the rows of buttons), and *WILL* support CarPlay and Android Auto IF and ONLY IF you get a dealer to install the latest and greatest firmware *AND* buy an aftermarket dongle to enable the AA/CarPlay feature.

otherwise, you need some Chinese kit of hardware that is an android computer and cables that you plug in between the head unit and the screen, and these don't integrate nearly as nicely, and you need to stuff the computer box into your glovebox or something.


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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 11:33 AM
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerCls
I have a 2015 CLS250 (built April 2015).I am trying to anyhow make it possible to activate Apple CarPlay.My COMAND system seems not to be prepared for that.I have 2 regular USB ports in the arm rest.Non of them has the screen mirroring symbol.Would it help to install the part # 246-820-38-00 OEM smart phone integration kit?Can I even connect that to my existing COMAND system?What I would also like to know, what's the COMAND version I have (NTG 5.x), and which version supports the Apple CarPlay (COMAND NTG 5.?)
Can someone help me clarify please
if your car have code 531 command it is possible to activate carplay but first your unit must be updated
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 12:38 PM
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yes, i have code 531...

Release Date 2015-04-02
Delivery Date 2015-04-07
Code Description
055 YOM 14/2
064 STEUERCODE MAGNETVENTIL M651
06A OIL OFFSET AMOUNT +600 ML OIL
09B OPERATORS MANUAL AND SERVICE BOOKLET - PORTUGUESE
117 PAPER CONTROL ROWI CERTIFICATION
174 CONTROL NAT3 PRESSURIZED OIL FILTER
1A6 4-CYL. DIESEL CONVERTER
200A LEATHER
20A EHS GENERATION
214A LEATHER - BROWN
22P TRACK PACKAGE
234 BLIND SPOT ASSISTANT
235 ACTIVE PARK ASSIST
249 INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR MIRROR,AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING
255B MB MOBILO WITH DSB AND GGD
258 COLLIS.WARN. SYS. W/ ACTIVE BRAKE INTERV. FCW STOP
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
277 SPORTS STEERING WHEEL
287 THROUGH-LOADING FEATURE
291 PELVIS AIRBAG (PELVISBAG)
294 KNEE AIRBAG
2A2 CONVERTER VERSION 3
2U1 RADIATOR SHUTTER
339B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - PORTUGUESE
343K MEASURE PACKAGE CONTROLLER UNIT TRANSMISSION PARTS
350 MBCONNECT - ECALL EUROPE EMERG. CALL SYS. GEN. 2
3A7 ASSEMBLY, ACTUATORS (THREE WHEELS)
3U1 EUROPE/CIS COUNTRIES/MONGOLIA HEAD UNIT
421 9-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
474 DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER
475 TIRE PRESSURE CONTROL
476 AUTOMATIC LANE RECOGNITION
481 UNDERSHIELDS
489 AIRMATIC DUAL CONTROL / AIR SUSPENSION SEMI-ACTIVE
4U7 VOLTAGE DIP FUSE FOR START/STOP SYSTEM
500 ELECTRIC FOLDING OUTSIDE MIRROR
501 360°-CAMERA
502 3 YEARS OF MAP UPDATES FREE OF CHARGE
51U BLACK FABRIC ROOF INTERIOR TRIM
531 COMAND APS NTG5/NTG5.5
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
5A1 ELECTROHYDRAULIC CONTROLLER UNIT-CONVERTER
5XXL EUROPE
61V SPEED- + LOADINDEX 99Y XL + 97Y
628 AUTOMATIC HIGH BEAM SWITCH PLUS (IHC+)
642 DYNAMIC LED HEADLAMPS, RIGHT-HAND TRAFFIC
670 RESIDUAL ENGINE HEAT UTILIZATION (MRA)
6A4 JOINT FLANGE W/ GW 120 / 4, 4-ARM X 120
6P5 STEUERCODE VERTRIEB FUER CODE 475 ANFORDERUNG
736 TRIM PIECES - ASH TREE WOOD BLACK (2A70)
755U TENORITE GRAY METALLIC PAINT
772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
790 18" AMG SPOKED WHEELS WITH MIXED TIRES
7A1 DIFFERENT LENGTH OF TORQUE CONVERTER HOUSING
805 CHANGE OF MODEL YEAR, THE LAST FIGURE SHOWING THE NEW MODEL YEAR
815 DVD SINGLE DRIVE
840 DARK TINTED GLASS
913 AIR-CONDITIONING SYSTEM FOR HOT COUNTRIES
919 AIRCON COOLING POWER PACKAGE
927 EURO 6 TECHNOLOGY EXHAUST GAS CLEANING
950 AMG SPORTS PACKAGE
968 COC PAPER EURO6 TECH. W/O REGISTRATION CERT.PART 2
A09 CO2 OFFENSIVE
B03 DIRECT START / ECO START/STOP FUNCTION
B09 REFRIGERANT COMPRESSOR WITH MAGNETIC COUPLING
B12 WHEEL REPLACEMENT TOOL
B51 TIREFIT
B54 MBCONNECT - REAL-TIME TRAFFIC DATA
F218 SERIES PRODUCTION 218
FX SPECIAL VERSION
G011 TRANSMISSION CODE VERSION 11
GA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
GA7 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
HA REAR AXLE
K11 ADAPTIVE STOP LIGHT FLASHING
K13 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 25000 KM
L LEFT-HAND STEERING
M014 ENGINE INCREASED PERFORMANCE
M020 BLUETEC
M22 DISPLACEMENT 2.2 LITER
M651 R4-DIESEL ENGINE M651
N3A STEUERCODE W50 FUER PPS-INT. VERWENDUNG
P44 PARKING PACKAGE
P49 MIRRORS PACKAGE
R01 SUMMER TIRES
U01 REAR BELT STATUS INDICATION
U26 FLOOR MATS - AMG
U72 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 2, EUROPE, JAPAN
U77 DIESEL EXHAUST TREATMENT BLUETEC SCR GENERATION 2
VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT
VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerCls
yes, i have code 531...

Release Date 2015-04-02
Delivery Date 2015-04-07
Code Description
055 YOM 14/2
064 STEUERCODE MAGNETVENTIL M651
06A OIL OFFSET AMOUNT +600 ML OIL
09B OPERATORS MANUAL AND SERVICE BOOKLET - PORTUGUESE
117 PAPER CONTROL ROWI CERTIFICATION
174 CONTROL NAT3 PRESSURIZED OIL FILTER
1A6 4-CYL. DIESEL CONVERTER
200A LEATHER
20A EHS GENERATION
214A LEATHER - BROWN
22P TRACK PACKAGE
234 BLIND SPOT ASSISTANT
235 ACTIVE PARK ASSIST
249 INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR MIRROR,AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING
255B MB MOBILO WITH DSB AND GGD
258 COLLIS.WARN. SYS. W/ ACTIVE BRAKE INTERV. FCW STOP
275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR)
277 SPORTS STEERING WHEEL
287 THROUGH-LOADING FEATURE
291 PELVIS AIRBAG (PELVISBAG)
294 KNEE AIRBAG
2A2 CONVERTER VERSION 3
2U1 RADIATOR SHUTTER
339B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - PORTUGUESE
343K MEASURE PACKAGE CONTROLLER UNIT TRANSMISSION PARTS
350 MBCONNECT - ECALL EUROPE EMERG. CALL SYS. GEN. 2
3A7 ASSEMBLY, ACTUATORS (THREE WHEELS)
3U1 EUROPE/CIS COUNTRIES/MONGOLIA HEAD UNIT
421 9-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
474 DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER
475 TIRE PRESSURE CONTROL
476 AUTOMATIC LANE RECOGNITION
481 UNDERSHIELDS
489 AIRMATIC DUAL CONTROL / AIR SUSPENSION SEMI-ACTIVE
4U7 VOLTAGE DIP FUSE FOR START/STOP SYSTEM
500 ELECTRIC FOLDING OUTSIDE MIRROR
501 360°-CAMERA
502 3 YEARS OF MAP UPDATES FREE OF CHARGE
51U BLACK FABRIC ROOF INTERIOR TRIM
531 COMAND APS NTG5/NTG5.5
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
5A1 ELECTROHYDRAULIC CONTROLLER UNIT-CONVERTER
5XXL EUROPE
61V SPEED- + LOADINDEX 99Y XL + 97Y
628 AUTOMATIC HIGH BEAM SWITCH PLUS (IHC+)
642 DYNAMIC LED HEADLAMPS, RIGHT-HAND TRAFFIC
670 RESIDUAL ENGINE HEAT UTILIZATION (MRA)
6A4 JOINT FLANGE W/ GW 120 / 4, 4-ARM X 120
6P5 STEUERCODE VERTRIEB FUER CODE 475 ANFORDERUNG
736 TRIM PIECES - ASH TREE WOOD BLACK (2A70)
755U TENORITE GRAY METALLIC PAINT
772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
790 18" AMG SPOKED WHEELS WITH MIXED TIRES
7A1 DIFFERENT LENGTH OF TORQUE CONVERTER HOUSING
805 CHANGE OF MODEL YEAR, THE LAST FIGURE SHOWING THE NEW MODEL YEAR
815 DVD SINGLE DRIVE
840 DARK TINTED GLASS
913 AIR-CONDITIONING SYSTEM FOR HOT COUNTRIES
919 AIRCON COOLING POWER PACKAGE
927 EURO 6 TECHNOLOGY EXHAUST GAS CLEANING
950 AMG SPORTS PACKAGE
968 COC PAPER EURO6 TECH. W/O REGISTRATION CERT.PART 2
A09 CO2 OFFENSIVE
B03 DIRECT START / ECO START/STOP FUNCTION
B09 REFRIGERANT COMPRESSOR WITH MAGNETIC COUPLING
B12 WHEEL REPLACEMENT TOOL
B51 TIREFIT
B54 MBCONNECT - REAL-TIME TRAFFIC DATA
F218 SERIES PRODUCTION 218
FX SPECIAL VERSION
G011 TRANSMISSION CODE VERSION 11
GA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
GA7 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
HA REAR AXLE
K11 ADAPTIVE STOP LIGHT FLASHING
K13 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 25000 KM
L LEFT-HAND STEERING
M014 ENGINE INCREASED PERFORMANCE
M020 BLUETEC
M22 DISPLACEMENT 2.2 LITER
M651 R4-DIESEL ENGINE M651
N3A STEUERCODE W50 FUER PPS-INT. VERWENDUNG
P44 PARKING PACKAGE
P49 MIRRORS PACKAGE
R01 SUMMER TIRES
U01 REAR BELT STATUS INDICATION
U26 FLOOR MATS - AMG
U72 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 2, EUROPE, JAPAN
U77 DIESEL EXHAUST TREATMENT BLUETEC SCR GENERATION 2
VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT
VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT


Yes, so you must update your headunit to latest firmware and then activate carplay
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 03:51 AM
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[QUOTE = pitpol; 8251833] Sim, por isso você deve atualizar o seu auto-rádio com firmware mais recente e carplay então ative [/ QUOTE]


At the Mercedes brand, they say it is not possible ... or they do not know what to do ... I am frustrated.
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 04:36 AM
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[QUOTE = pitpol; 8251833] Sim, por isso você deve atualizar o seu auto-rádio com firmware mais recente e carplay então ative [/ QUOTE]


At the Mercedes brand, they say it is not possible ... or they do not know what to do ... I am frustrated.
That is the usual response...
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well, sure, you are asking for features that were not offered on your car model. yes, the hardware is capable, but it wasn't supported yet until later years, so yeah, sorry. N/A.

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